‘The Starks have ruled the North in an unbroken (as far as we know) direct line for something like 8,000 years. They were kings while the Valyrians were still sheep farming in Essos.’ –Kelsey L. Hayes
[EDIT: Omg. I’m sorry for the length. Feel free to read it and not post.]
2.0 interpretation of the “all that & a bag of chips” 36min mark–spread (god I love that saying now!). A caveat: since this was not my reading, I can only provide the factual meanings of the cards. No higgetus-piggetus-zumba-bazinging here. I hear no voices.
*(Regarding Harry disliking the royal pomp – he’s harped on about his mixed feelings in regards to his position ad nauseam (remember “nobody really wants the job?”). And H&M’s feelings about work and press? Also straight out of sugar outlets. So really, nothing solidly connected to the cards in front of her. What her intuition told her, only she can now, but it didn’t mesh with the spreads at hand. Which is why I’m slightly iffy about it all.)
Reader asked for Harry & Meghan’s relationship, and these are the cards she got (that I could make out, the bottom row was never clarified & lay buried under her cosy cover) :
LINE 1: The Emperor (major arcana)/ The Magician (major arcana) / Knight of Wands (reversed) / 3 Pentacles (reversed)
LINE 2: 6 of Pentacles / 7 of Pentacles / The Moon (major arcana, reversed) / 9 of Swords (repeat)
LINE 3: 4 of Pentacles (I think?) / 5 of Cups (reversed, repeat) /8 of Cups / 7 of Wands (repeat)
SO WHAT IS THIS BAG OF CHIPS SAYING?
Since it’s not my reading, I can’t feel any of the infamous “card energy”. There are a few ways of reading this (just not the original readers lol) and without spreading them yourself, any option’s a go.
We’ve got Magician, likely Harry (ruled by Mercury, ruler of Virgo=Harry) the card of you making things happen yourself, manifesting your goals or dreams. He’s inspired and driven by the energy of the Emperor, the energy he wants to BE in and BECOME: the steady protector and head of the family, someone who is given due recognition for his status and achieves success. This is an energy of structure and stability through experience – which can also represent QE (authority he looks up to)/Charles (the father-figure) – in which case, this Emperor must be impressed for your plans to bear fruition IRL. If not, he’ll be your obstacle and only make things harder.
They are followed by the Knight of Wands rev. & 3 of Pentacles rev. Boy-oh-boy! The knight of wands (as a suits card, it’s fire, so possibly Meg, but could stand for both M&H in the situ overall) is an impatient aggressive energy. He’s charging ahead toward that Magician’s dream, that goal he covets so hotly! But he’s getting nowhere, or he feels impeded and blocked. His frustration costs him his focus and direction – he’s willing to charge ahead blindly in whatever direction just to get ahead and get moving, no matter the consequences down the line. This knight acts impulsively and without a clear plan. So possibly, that Emperor is making hard weather for the dream/goal to be achieved, and the knight in reverse struggles to cope with not having control over his own path. When this fiery knight is in suspension, he begins to dwell on negativity and ultimately drains his energy in destructive ways ultimately resulting in loss of self-esteem/identity.
The 3 of Pentacles tells us that there is a schism/disharmony in the atmosphere in which H&M are = the BRF. There is ultimately NO TEAMWORK. Energies are scattered. Other people’s experience or advice are dismissed, while they[H&M] probably feel like they’re not being listened to – this causes increasing tensions and power struggles. When this card comes up, it could be that members break away and go at it alone or join another team.
This draaama is followed by a short respite in the physical world – they are granted help (literally on the receiving end of “charity”) from someone/somewhere. Things are looking up a little after the struggles of the first line and this takes them into the energy of the 7 of Pentacles. But all is not what it seems there; while this card denotes the first rewards for your hard work in persevering, it does not say that the reward is what you thought it would be… We are hit by another major arcana card: The Moon rev. Our shadow selves or the card of deception, secrets and illusions. It’s funny that the moon in tarot cards is a big darkness covering the sun’s illuminating light, hindering it to shine brightly on the path of truth below. Repressed feelings may begin to bubble up to the surface and they might feel uneasy and anxious. What you thought was your goal suddenly loses its shine and you’re standing there wondering if this was truly what you wanted. Sometimes, this also means that your intuition is heightened – so the situation and your intuition crash = CONFUSION.
The sickening magnetism of the moon is illustrated clearly with the 9 of Swords following. Oy vey! That card is the worst sort of anxiety you can feel. It keeps you up, it raises your pulse so you can’t sleep, it haunts you! But… it’s the fear and anxiety of THE MIND. Of the nine swords pointing toward the woman in the card, only a max of 3 are at an angle to actually threaten her – the rest are her own mental amplifications of the other 3. This is essentially excessive worry, and it can lead to depression and depletion of energy. Also remember that this is the 2nd time this card shows up so far in this reader’s … uh… readingS. So it’s a definitely a prevailing energy.
The last line serves us the reason for the previous energies we just saw: money money money. The 4 of Pentacles is someone very attached to the material world, so much so that the illustration shows a man tightly holding onto his coins and cradling them for his life! It is a card of accomplishing material security, but it also has that downside of greed at the cost of other aspects of your life. The latter can lead to such over prising of material security that you become inflexible and conservative – you feel like you HAVE to be in charge and in control. With this, even if you’re having second thoughts about a situation, if it’s providing you material stability – you’re unlikely to listen to your gut and change course into the unknown.
However, we have the 5 rev (2nd time hitherto in the session) & 8 of Cups. (I’d pull clarifiers on this entire line, but again, not my reading.) Fives are change in tarot. Either because someone manages to cut through the fog of disenchantment and confusion to let go and take that leap to change his/her life; forgive and forget, just get on with it and move forward. OR simply because the feeling of being stuck in that energy of the 2nd line has grown too much and has begun to trap you in an emotional prison… either way on comes 8 of Cups. This card literally asks you if you’re truly satisfied with façades and the material – did it really bring you happiness? The man walking away in the card says no. He’s weary and disillusioned and feels like he needs to seek something more, something better, something more substantial. He wants the fulfilment ha hasn’t found in the current situation. This can be a mental withdrawal and/or an actual physical moving on – on to greener pastures.
And lastly… Ending the spread is the 7 of Wands rev (2nd time for this too, 1st time upright = defending yourself & your choices against others). This card tells us that you’re tired. Tired of having to constantly defend yourself against your partner and/or the family and/or the world (media, people, blogs w/e). Your strength is running out and it all becomes too much to shoulder and perhaps not worth it, because those energy levels aren’t being replenished by love or joy or rewards that fulfil you to make it worth the hassle. It might be time to let go and move on. (That Emperor at the very beginning proved too big an obstacle to face, or too big a dream to rush into manifestation…)
Thank you so much for submitting this!
First, let me say that I love your anon name, Madame Mim. That is one of my favorite movies!!!
Second, here are my thoughts. You don’t have to respond. I am obviously just guessing here. Also, I feel like I’ve already taken up a ton of your time and I apologize for that. I don’t know why I’m so intrigued by this reading. I usually just post the astrology and tarot stuff and forget it, but this one drew me in for some reason.
I can see where the YouTube reader is coming from now. She said “there’s money all over this” and I can see that now. She was really surprised by that and so am I, honestly. Yes, I know that Meghan and Harry don’t have that much money (regardless of what all the “Hollywood millionaire” and “Diana trust” articles say), but they also have no expenses. It’s odd that they have such a money-centered spread.
Here are some specific thoughts:
First line (This is the past, no? I haven’t read Tarot in ages, but I seem to remember that. Anyway, I’m reading it as the past.)
Emperor: I’m wondering if this is Will and not PC or HM. I say this because the rest of the BRF seems to be giving Harkle wide berth and Will and Kate seem to be the only ones to be helping out. Meghan seemed quite deferential to Will during Sandringham too. Harkle also seems to have an odd compulsion to become Will and Kate, which seems to fit that “becoming” aspect. Everyone seemed to expect them to go their own way, but they seem to be imitating a lot.
Magician: Totes Harry. I see that.
Knight of Wands: I’d say that is Meghan. “Charging ahead with no clear plan” definitely describes her actions up to this point. I’d say the Emperor (Will in my read) is not impressed and may be impeding some of her wilder schemes. I’m thinking of the Royal Foundation forum and that “fighting” convo.
Three of Pentacles: I’d say this it where the Fab Four are now. Scattered and in Disarray. I Googled the card and there seems to be an element of not being listened to in there. I’d say that’s how Meghan and Harry feel. They are not being listened to. Their more outlandish ideas (politics, etc…) are not being adopted.
Second line (this would be present, at least for me)
Six of Pentacles: Not sure what this is. Outside help sounds right. Maybe this is the massive expense of the wedding?
Seven of Pentacles: Outside help works and they have some measure of success. Wedding?
Moon reversed: Like you say, realization that this was all illusion and not what they really wanted. Whatever success they had was not what they really wanted. Maybe the marriage isn’t what they really wanted and they come to realize that.
Nine of Swords: Mental anxiety, as you say. Likely caused by the crumbling of the illusory goal.
Last line (reasons, like you say)
4 of Pentacles: Money, money money. I’m still very intrigued by the extreme focus on money in this spread. Possession rule your life, uh? Wow.
5 of Cups reversed: Moving on from disappointment
8 of Cups: Disappointment with achieved goal. Interesting that the 5 came before the 8. I’d say this speaks to the impulsivity of these two. They act first and think later, imo. I’d read these two cards together as a massive problem with short attention span, dissatisfaction and impulsivity.
Seven of Wands reversed: Feeling overwhelmed, criticized. I love your analysis here.
Thanks for sending in your analysis. Lots of food for thought there.
2/2 conflict avoidance etc… Basically H’s line of cards were all very painful exhausting energy. Meg’s line? She’s being cunning and trying to balance a tricky situation, trying to figure out a way forward. I would personally do a different sort of spread and do clarifyers on specific cards to get teh details instead of hopping back and forth to no avail really. But the reader was pants down hilarious!
Thanks for sending this in! I was laughing my booty off, but, yes, I was wondering when she was going to get to the technical stuff. She never did! She just changed decks and started talking again.
But a lot of her intuitions do align with what I’ve been seeing. I thought what she said about Meghan’s energy levels explained a lot because she really does look tired ALL THE TIME and they aren’t even working that hard. Ditto what she said about them feeling trapped. That would explain why they are traveling every two weeks.
I’m still halfway through and enjoying this, but I really wish she would do a more technical read because those cards looked hella intriguing.
It would surprise me, and I think the blind refers to the Saudi Crown Prince and not him.
I think if Charles engaged in that kind of behavior, then we probably would have already heard it by now. It would give plenty of people another reason to hate him, which would have already made it to press by now if he did it on a regular basis.
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^^^ This.
Remember the story about the three children named Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. Yes, it was a story involving religion, but the message is as clear, true and applicable here as in anything else.
On top of that, if you need another reason to get angry and do this, we have a new enemy that has sided with Ajit Pai: The National Rifle Association, who gave him the Charlton Heston Courage Under Fire Award and a rifle for repealing Net Neutrality.
Yes, the same NRA that a lot of people are angry at in relation to the Parkland Massacre.
Oh, we are now up to seven sources on this and they will keep calling them “Bitter Bettys.” Lol, when she finally dumps Harry and he spills the beans he’ll also be a “Bitter Betty.”
God, I have so many pro-Harry anons right now. I don’t get it. Who the hell believes “Hey I just met you and this is crazy but I’m a humanitarian so let’s gets married maybe?” after three freaking dates? This isn’t a 2 by 4 cluestick over the head, this is a Darwin award.
No, he doesn’t deserve to be used, but he’s being an idiot and everyone has told him that he is being an idiot.
I don’t think she’d even met Meghan at this point, but she had her pegged to at “t.”
I think I read somewhere that Kate was very quiet, but very influential and that Will listened to her closely and trusted her judgement 100%. I dismissed that as pr twaddle when I first read it, but I think it may be true now. The only part of this charade that hasn’t been a complete disaster was Pippa’s wedding.
Kate, btw, had her pegged from the start. She said Meghan was “[a]n opportunist WHO WILL DO OR SAY OR BE ANYTHING SHE HAS TO in order to make the marriage happen.” Totally nailed it.
Uh, not quite. The “agreement” theory originated back when H&M were dating. It was an explanation as to why there was so much pr shit going on with Megs.
Now, the “agreement” theory as it regards to the wedding/engagement, you can choose what you want to believe about it. Either the Conspiracy Trio didn’t want believe the engagement was real and just stuck with the previous theory, or “Wink” encouraged them to believe it since s/he is a longtime anon/contributor.
Oh, Jess will post teary pics on IG, Ben will do a three-day eTalk special, and Lainey will have fifty-thousand posts on how she “knew there was something off about Meghan from the very start.”
The effect that A Quiet Place had on the theater was so unreal. People were afraid to eat. Half the people, myself and the guy beside me included, spent tense movie moments covering their mouths as to not make a sound, one time somebody stepped on a nacho container during a VERY tense moment and the entire theater lost their shit. People were gasping, one woman screamed, everyone chatised the individual quickly and hushedly before returning to the movie. When the lights came up everyone was still whispering. People were tiptoeing out like everyone was fucking silent and to have THAT effect on your audience shows something.
I saw my god’s house burn. There, where I had healed men and women beyond counting. In the streets I saw piles of heads… the head of the baker who makes my bread, the head a young boy that I had cured of fever just three moons past. So… tell me again exactly what it was that you saved?
I was wrong. I thought, she phoned her agent as soon as she came back from Botswana. Oh, no, she told her agent BEFORE THE FIRST DATE.
She told her agent and went on to hint it at Piers Morgan. OMG, she was so freaking happy, she couldn’t keep it to herself. LOL, and she acted all “I asked if he was nice because if he wasn’t nice it wouldn’t be worth it” during the interview. This is too funny.
So much for, “didn’t know that much about him” and “I didn’t have any understand of just what it would be like.” She had already consulted one of the UK’s most powerful agents and publicists.
Oh, and she’d Googled him too.
And he really did propose in Botswana. OMG, what an idiot.
They bonded over a “shared love” of conservation. WTF?????? Her conservation resume was one gorilla in Rwanda.
LOL, Harry fell head over heels for a calculated user who faked her love of elephants. OMG, this boy is such an idiot.
But Meghan was so sure of this that she turned into a bitch right after she met Harry. I am dying here. DYING.
She went full on diva right away.
Oh, the KP staff must be having a ball with this one. No wonder everyone decided to quit at once.
She also decided to quit her career IN OCTOBER.
No wonder Kruger Cowne put out that weird “it is up to KP to confirm” language. LOLOLOLOL.
She completely ghosted the agent and now talks only though lawyers.
Gina totally confirms the ghosting.
And she also confirms the “fauxmanitarian” makeover. She “wanted to be recognized as a humanitarian” and Kruger Cowne found her all the events. LOLOLOL.
Holy crap. Well, I can’t wait until Meghan decides to “move on” from Harry. Don’t worry, “Haz,” Andrew Morton will be there for when you decide to reveal all, just like every single person who has ever had any contact with Meghan.
“I gave [Charles] a walking stick for his father made by the hands of the Prince Philip Movement. I told him a lot of people in the movement have now died but there are some still living. The Prince said he would deliver the message personally.”
— 7 April 2018, Jimmy Joseph, a local from the island of Vanuatu, where Prince Philip is worshiped as a god.
I had a very smart anon saying that it was likely because she was in the entertainment industry and Chels, Cress and Kate weren’t. There’s only so much dirt you can dig up on relatively normal girls who went to uni and lived with their parents. Even with that, Chelsy was portrayed as a wild party girl and her dad’s past business dealings were scrutinized. Likewise, Cress’ mom’s love life was all over the papers. They were all followed by paps with their “partying” and socializing ending up on all papers.
I would say that Meghan has had a far easier time than Chelsy or Cress. In many ways, Chelsy and Cress caught more flack but comparatively harmless transgressions.
Chelsy’s name was supposedly too tacky for the BRG. Now we are told Megan-with-and-H is perfect. Cress was sharply criticized for “licking” an elephant tusk on someone’s IG. Now we are being told that fake blow-jobs and coke-snorting is A-OK. Chelsy was criticized for dressing badly and having wind-blown hair. Meghan’s clothes fit even worse than Chelsy’s and her hair is twice the mess and people are screaming “fashion icon.” Chelsy’s dad was considered a shady character because he survived the Mugabe regime. Meghan’s dad is an “adorably shy recluse” because he is in Mexico for reasons no one can explain. Kate was lambasted for wearing a see-through dress OVER a bandeau bikini IN A CHARITY FASHION SHOW. Meghan has taken her clothes so many times I can’t even count them, and it’s totes fine. Kate was criticized for not being confirmed until right before the wedding. Meghan wasn’t even baptized. Kate was criticized for Uncle Gary’s antics. LOL, look at Meghan’s entire family. Carole was criticized for saying “toilet” or something like that, which meant she was low class. LOLOLOL, look at Meghan’s redneck relatives. James and Pippa were flayed for their business failures. Check out the motley Markles who have spent most of this “romance” scrounging for bail money and whose main business right now is selling pics and stories to the DM. Cress’ family was supposedly dysfunctional because her mom was divorced and re-married many times and this meant she didn’t have a stable enough background for Harry. Meghan not only comes from a divorced family, but she is divorced herself. Heck, Carole was widely mocked for being an air stewardess and Doria was also an air stewardess and hardly anyone mentions it. Kate was criticized for getting Audi and Issa freebies. LOLOLOLOL on Meghan’s many, many sponsorships. Cress was papping herself with teaching booklets because dance wasn’t considered a suitable profession for a Duchess-to-be. Now Meghan’s Deal or No Deal stint is considered borderline heroic.
So Meghan has had a much easier time, I think. Even her nudes got swept under the rug because she claimed they were fake, Will and Kate should have tried that in France. “Sorry, but you got the wrong peeps. It’s just another brunette and her balding boyfriend.”
A lot of the Kate/Chelsy/Cress “scandals” were the press clutching pearls over small stuff. With Meghan there is less pearl clutching and there is a LOT MORE shady stuff.
This is partly, because she was in a pretty shady business, as were her parents. Then she has her crazy family. She also ditched a lot of people, so now everyone has an incentive to talk. Carole, on the other hand, kept everyone close and hardly anyone rats on the Middletons. Meghan even ditched her Suits colleagues, which is pretty amazing.
But part of it is just that she is batshit crazy. The Diana stuff is just plain surreal, and people glossing over it because “everyone loved Diana” is bizarre. I can’t even imagine the coverage if Jessica Hay had come out saying that Kate kept a copy of Morton’s book on her nightstand, modeled herself after Will’s mom, and even bought her watch. The tabs would have had a party with that.
That’s why we’re a couple of weeks away from the wedding and there is still crap coming out. There’s so much dirt and scheming and general weirdness out there that the DM didn’t even check out the “The Secret” church, and her blogs are only now uncovering that all of that crap jewelry she “hinted” was a present from Harry was actually Jess’ product placements.
Well, I’m not sure how much of this will make it onto the public domain. However, if this ends up with a Heather Mills-like expose, the BRF will be in serious trouble.
Yup. This is one of the reasons why I’ve always been against the “agreement” theory. One, it doesn’t hold up. Two, it relies on MM not dishing dirt that there was some kind of agreement for marriage to begin with. Three, if it were true, then MM could easily make it all public in a scorched earth campaign, which would ruin all members of the royal family including the Queen.
He’s had a good life. He’s outlived his sisters and both his parents. He’s gotten to see most of his grandchildren grow up. He’s gotten to enjoy having great-grandkids. Almost 97 years is nothing to complain about. So many people don’t even get half that long to live.
I assume most of the hospital acquired infections require antibiotics. I don’t know what the hospital procedures are in the UK. I think it would only affect the BRF as a whole if it was something that they could catch while visiting him in the hospital; otherwise, I assume they would be fine. Philip is the one who just had surgery, so his immune system is the most compromised.
I wouldn’t get your hopes up on this one. Morton’s book comes out in five days, so it’s already finished. Even in the US, he probably couldn’t print such a claim unless he actually named the men involved, and I don’t see that happening.