Ugh, sorry for the [sic!] in my ask about the sugar. It was supposed to say “Meg’s mum is best mates with Oprah”. I think you got it anyway. But yeah, it’s truly astounding. They’re like at the level of the Tin Hat Trio in some of their outlandish “facts” (every man Meg’s pumped & dumped ever has been abusive *cough*). Hey, I’m glad the other side’s got THEIR Tin Foil people too. LOL Evens things out!

Yeah, I figured it out. But yeah, I expect we’re going to have a crazy summer at this point, particularly after Ascot finishes. 

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LOL, hey HoB, have you seen that sugar’s reblog of the Joffrey/Ava seating vs Zeleb post? Apparently, Meg’s mum is bezzie mates with Doria bc they go to the same “church” (it’s like saying everyone in the CoE are best mates, because we all are part of the CoE…). I don’t think they understand that the “The Secret” church isn’t a building, it’s a weird cult/faith thing very poular in CA. Furthermore, Meg’s bezzies with Amal since 2014, bc you know: her extensive and deep reaching “philanthropy”.

Oh yeah, I saw it. That kind of delusion is AMAZING! She’s BFF with Serena, don’t you know? Doesn’t matter that Serena didn’t invite Megs to HER wedding. I have no idea where they come up with some of these things like her supposed friendship with Amal since 2014?! Um, where’s the proof? Even Celebitchy was like, why were George & Amal sitting in prime seats

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No mention of Megs and Amal being friends while Megs was living in Toronto, and Amal was living nowhere near Toronto!

Hello HOB, what do the charts say about children? I’m sorry to ask it might be something you’ve answered. Regarding the sugars that imply the negativity is from jealousy, Meghan could marry him because nobody else wanted, so… He was well loved because of his history and his charity PR, but definitely not ready to marry, he has to grow up. I really hope he does. He seems though to have some serious mental health issues not sure he will be able to work out. Do the charts say anything on that?

Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.

At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street. 

But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.

Okay, a) I can’t read “Joffrey” without seeing “Joffrey punch-me-in-the-face Bratheon” from GoT. b) IF Joffrey & Ava where there, then omg I’d be ashamed to be a sugar! That’s not a point you’d want to highlight, because THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED SOMEWHERE BACK BY THE ENTRANCE! O_O How could anybody find this a redeeming act? When Oprah, George & Amal C, Serena + husband(!? wtf!), +MORE, were seated right across the RF? These are people neither of them know, some never even actually met. FFS

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anonymoushouseplantfan:

When you compare Meghan and Fergie, and how their timelines will play out, I think that may be a mistake. 

Meghan has been on a timeline all her own for a while now, although the Duchess of Windsor would probably be a closer comparison. 

Even then, tho…..

Meghan was so tacky at the beginning with the pics of bananas and British tea, people were convinced for a solid week after they dropped they were dating that couldn’t possibly happen in any reality involving actual royal people. 

And then, only a week into the relationship, all her skeletons started to fall out, and Harry did that statement. Well, people accepted they were together, and that Harry was obviously serious. But I think the statement mostly made people uncomfortable. It had never happened before, called a whole slew of people racist. It was uncomfortable. 

And then she pap walked in all British brands DAYS later. And then pap walked in an H and M necklace a month later. 

Harry’s mistake of flying out to see her at the end of a tour, when he should have gone home. People are going to think, why not he wanted to see his girlfriend. When someone is walking around downtown London, on a sunny day, in wellies, and Barbour, you look tacky. She would have looked less tacky and touristy in socks and sandals and an usa t-shirt.

The months following are the same pattern. Most of Harry’s public mistakes, while they shouldn’t have happened, were him flying to see her when he shouldn’t have. Or inviting her on that African “working holliday” when he shouldn’t have. That just translates to a majority of the public like he really wanted to see her. I’d be mad if that was my tax money, but he just looks like a guy trying to see his then girlfriend as often as possible. 

Meghan, on the other hand, kept posting “clues” on her IG,  keeps pap walking, keeps forcing herself into situations where she clearly isn’t trying to fit in. Skippy’s wedding, Pippa’s wedding, and polo were all awkward as hell. And a nation that grew up with the boys, and is used to what the boys normally look like with their girlfriends, can see with their own eyes that something is off. 

Couple that with her father’s family don’t have much nice to say, her mother’s family don’t have much nice to say, colleagues don’t have much nice to say, ex boyfriends and husband’ don’t have much nice to say, agents don’t have much nice to say, NO ONE has much nice to say, and all revealed at a steady stream over a year, and you have a problem. 

This engagement and wedding should have been the turn around. 

But she talked to Vanity Fair, and publicly did that walkabout during Invictus. I think they could have pulled off Invictus, IF Meghan hadnt done Vanity fair, revealed she’d been talking to the media for months, before obviously courting them at Invictus, and then standing around looking like a hooker in raccoon eyes with two of the cheapest people I have ever seen in Royal presence. Anderson and Mulroney. Meghan is incapable of class, or decorum, or anything resembling admiration. How do you admire raccoon eyes? And messy hair? Both Chelsy and Cressida managed to go to public outtings with Harry while looking like they hadn’t called the media first. 

And then papped before that sorry excuse for an engagement announcement. A nation that sees royal engagement announcements on a regular basis knew that wasn’t how they happen. Eugenie getting it so right only a few months later highlight that. Not that I think Eugenie knows how to deal with he media, but she clearly asked for palace help with that. 

And then ALL THE LEAKING. Meghan can put out as many surgery articles as she wants. The constant attention isn’t only unsustainable, it’s crazy. Brangelina didn’t survive the constant media attention, Twilight didn’t survive the constant media attention. If you oversaturate the market , the public turns you into a meme. 

And Meghan’s meme is already set. Her father’s family weren’t at the wedding, her mother’s family weren’t at the wedding. The wedding was tacky, and the opposite of royal. And her father, at least according to press, was in a charity hospital in Mexico while Meghan was off playing pretty pretty princess. 

That tacky fest is going to bite her in the booty later, because everyone wound up looking good except her. Her mother had to show up by herself, because Meghan didn’t even give her a plus one, and Prince Charles stepped up, and took care of the mother, and walked Meghan down the aisle. There were tons of articles praising Charles for being a gentleman everywhere. 

The royal family were very welcoming, their children were part of the wedding. The showed up, and showed support. 

And Harry. Dear God. The engagement interview looked like he was besotted, and all the coverage that involved her was calling out lies. Everyone remembers he said he loved her, and was looking forward to being a team. Everyone remembers she said she had no idea who he was, and hoped he was nice, with accompanying pics of her sitting outside Buckingham Palace. And several people that knew her stepping up to call her out on that. 

And during the wedding, Harry cried. Apparently twice. He has become an internet meme for how a groom is supposed to look at his bride. And sat there, turned sideways in his chair, legs as close to her as possible, and clutched her hand for  a solid hour. Apparently while crying. Twice. 

She just held out her hand, and kept attention toward the cameras. Not showing affection back, while her father was, at least according to the mirror, in a charity hospital, and her poor all alone mother was being taken care of by the royal family. 

Harry talks about how amazing she is, and how much he loves her. She talks about how she is a proud feminist, and is a social justice warrior. I don’t think she’ ever said publicly she loves him. Something the press haven’ forgotten with Charles. 

Wallis Simpson was just divorced. She didn’t have social media to embaress herself in such a fashion. And she had the good sense not to call the media. 

ALL of this is going to come into play later. When people admit, during the divorce, that they always knew this wasn’t going to work out, they are going to replay all this stuff from the beginning. And Meghan has done all this publicly. Pics of Harry clutching her, crying, are going to be the meme when they announce the divorce. How is she supposed to counter that? Say that sometimes, privately, he could be mean? 

This is all the stuff that is gonna make her look bad. Not even including the possible first marriage, the sex tape, the naked pics, one of which happened after she met Harry, and the possible yachting, if true. Heather Mills didn’t have this wrong with her. Until the prostitution crap came out, people geniuely believed in the beginning she loved Paul. 

And we haven’t gotten into when they call her in the papping and merching. Harry hasn’t been as obvious as her. And hasn’t had Jessica piblicly commenting on it. The public was furious when they thought her father did it to her, and what are they supposed to think when they find out she did it to the royal family?

She is going to be Wallis Simpson, Heather Mills, and Urdangarin all rolled into one. She has, rather impressively, done every royal scandal ever all in the span if two years. 

And she is already unpopular from the beginning. No royal bride has had this many problems, not even Wallis Simpson. Whatever happened to Wallis during her wedding to Edward, no one knows. She didn’t call the media. 

I highly doubt ALL of this comes out. But I bet a good bit of it does. 

Harry has made plenty of mistakes during this relationship, but at the end, I think the public will consider his biggest mistake was falling for her in the first place. 


These are all very good points. There’s also the fact hat the media moves A LOT faster now than it did in the eighties.

I hold on to the Fergie timeline because I like having a basis for my opinions, but you’re right, it may not take that long.

The Harkles don’t understand that if you choose your family over the A-list, it means you don’t need the A list. You are so far above it, you can reject the A list. It means I don’t need you, I’d rather have my mailman. That’s superior! If you are desperately trying to rope in A listers,you have shown your ass. It’s like that old Churchill saying, we know who you are, now we’re just talking price.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

EXACTLY.

This why rolled my eyes so hard during Will & Kate’s US tour, but at least that one was official receptions and it felt like it was the celebs wanting to meet Will & Kate and not the other way around.

This is obviously the Slutsexes kowtowing to a bunch of celebs they barely know and letting them use the wedding for self-promotion and merching.

I got the joffery Ava being there from this person ….Katy Forrester@katyshowbizReplying to @RE_DailyMailJoffrey and Ava are there. They were on ITV coverage and flew first class. As for links and pics I haven’t seeing any unless one of the hard core sugars have one or it hasn’t surface yet..

Even if they were there, why weren’t they sitting in the quire where Meghan’s family is supposed to be? It’s unacceptable to me that if they were there MEGHAN stuck them in the back. Like, Serena Williams’ AGENT was sitting in the quire section across from the royal family, but if you’re a blood relation to the bride you have to sit in the back??? 

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I think he’ll be able to remarry in CoE, all he needs is a reverend willing to wed a divorcee. There was something about Charles and Camilla, they could be wed in CoE but decided to have a civil marriage and church blessing because he’s an heir or something.

That’s not the way I remember it but whatever. 

If Harry wants to remarry in a few years time, then people are going to be annoyed because he’ll look like a serial marriage person. It’s just not a good look all around.

Meghan got a pass to wed in the CoE because TECHNICALLY she wasn’t part of the CoE and had previously not been wed within the CoE. (She wasn’t part of any Christian church, not even baptised, but that’s another story.) It’s one of those “devil’s in the details” loopholes. Harry, on the other hand, is a member of the CoE. He married in the CoE. When he divorces, he can’t remarry in a CoE church like the first time. That’s the rule the CoE goes by. Any new wife-to-be’s status doesn’t matter a.t.p.

Oh, yeah, that’s right. I remember mentioning that. (Feels so long ago.)

But yeah, if he wants to remarry in the CoE again, then he would have to get an annulment, not a divorce.

@”have to settle for a civil ceremony with a blessing afterwards like his dad.” What if the person he marries next never been married ?

Well, I remember people complaining that Harry & Megs shouldn’t have really gotten a wedding in the Church of England this time because Megs is divorced, but they gave them a pass on it. 

So, I’m sure it’ll be up to the CoE again to decide if they’re going to give them a pass on it or not.

The gospel choir was Charles’ idea!

motherofbulldogs:

Tina Brown says that the gospel choir was Prince Charles’ idea. Makes sense that he’d hav to encourage them to get their act together and suggest musicians & singers for them to include. Remember that the choir and ‘cellist were announced rather late. Note also that the harpist at the wedding was the official harpist to the Prince of Wales.

The gospel choir was Charles’ idea!

“Meg will pull race cards on Kate to get a photo op with her at Wimbledon”- Kate has an official role at Wimbledon, she’s at ‘work’ when she’s there and usually sits with other Wimbledon officials. She hasn’t even been able to bring Pippa with her since 2011.

True. But I don’t know if she’ll attend this year anyway since she’s on maternity leave until the fall. I think she became patron in 2016, which is after Charlotte was born. Perhaps the Kents will just go since they were involved with Wimbledon for so many years instead.

this annulment thing. It’s from the people who create false theories.When harry and meghan were dating they said no engagement, when they got engaged they said no wedding, when they got married they saying it will be annulled. Let’s wait for Harry or Meghan to file for divorce.

Well, the people you’re talking about have just straight up lied to people about an agreement, fake engagement, blackmail, etc. 

I think the possibility of an annulment exists if this marriage implodes over the summer. We’ll just have to wait and see what kind of fireworks go off after the 4th of July.

I don’t think they will annul the marriage though. I think they will divorce. Prince Harry will pull a Kim Kardashian and file for divorce after 72 days of marriage. It will be similar to the Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries scandal.

Maybe. It might just depend how quickly this thing unravels. We’ll know for sure by the beginning of September I think. If Harry ever wanted to have a wedding in a church to someone else, then he would have to get an annulment or else he’d probably have to settle for a civil ceremony with a blessing afterwards like his dad.

You’d think the wedding would calm the stans down eh? But hurt butts gonna butthurt. Anons, for everybody’s sake, just ignore the stans you don’t agree with and stay in your favoured lanes. People tag for their own blog organisation. There is no topic or person in this world that will have your 100% tagegory approval when you do a search. Nobody’s going to LOVE exactly what you love and HATE exactly what you hate. Deal with it, put your big girl panties on and move along.

Logic is just too difficult for some people, you know?

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The anon that said Joffrey and Ava were there. Can they send a link to you? Were they invited or just there outside in the audience or with reporters? I can’t find any news. The press just doesn’t seem interested in covering her black family and all about the crazy Markles.

They didn’t send a link. I haven’t seen any other reference to that other than just that anon. 

But hey anon with that info, if you’re able to send a link spaced out with pics proving they were there, feel free to send.

You’re such a dumb stupid bitch! How is Meghan Markle a famewhore? Girl wasn’t even on social media when she was an actress and nobody knew who she was till Harry. You’re just jealous and have delusions about being married to Harry yourself, as if. If you weren’t a bitter bitch maybe good things would happen to you too. Now STFU and stop filling the Meghan tag with your shit nobody cares about sis.

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Megs most certainly was on social media before she met Harry. She had both a twitter account and an instagram account. She had a lifestyle website called “The Tig.” Please learn how to research before you come to someone who actually reads something other than fanfiction for a living. 

And as for why she’s a famewhore? How about this?

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That’s Meghan talking PUBLICLY about a PRIVATE relationship to the glossiest glossy magazine in the USA. IF she wasn’t a famewhore, then why would she be on the cover, since as you just said “nobody knew who she was till Harry.” Oh that’s right, she’s a famewhore of the first order since she’ll sell anyone out as long as she can get her press.

No fucking way am I interested in dating, fucking, or marrying Harry’s whiny, petty, petulant, insecure ass. You go on right ahead pretending that he’s Mr. Nice Prince that would never ever have the Kensington Palace press office release all sorts of terrible, secret shit on Meghan when the day comes. And that day will probably come sooner rather than later.

You’ve got a lot to learn about the British royal family and the UK press my dear.

I know the duchess of slutsex is super excited about here amazing new title, hence the tiara acceptance speech, but does she not realize she received the Razzie of Royal titles? I mean sure, the Razziea take place during Oscar season and yes, the are an awards show but one receives a razzie for their awful performance. So congrats on your Royal Razzie Megs! You have truly given an awful performance

anonymoushouseplantfan:

She does NOT care at all. 

I think that’s one of the big advantages she has here. The BRF is used to dealing with people who resent small snubs like getting a bad title, or an ugly tiara, or no coat of arms, or a bad seat. Meghan DOES NOT CARE. All she cares about is the fame part of it–the BS Weekly covers, the merch, the photographers.

The rest of it is just not important to her. That’s why she had a crap cake and takeout pizza for her wedding. She only cares about the royal trappings insofar as they will translate into press coverage. 

Maybe they’ll just follow the Canadian rule (as opposed to the state of Ontario rule) to declare that Megs was in a civil partnership with Cory to get the marriage annulled. Depends on how badly PH will want to get rid of her. Personally I don’t think the will, I think this will end in a nasty expensive divorce.

The problem I have with that is that Megs stopped being with Cory in 2016. Wedding happened in 2018. That’s a year and a half separation at a minimum. It seems really hard to justify that there’s an overlap causing a conflict with this marriage. 

Does it mean that Harry was fucking Megs while she was still with Cory? I have no doubt that is the case. But Cory and Megs went their separate ways before an engagement happened.

You also missed an important part about annulment, if the person you are married to hids information about a previous marriage than you are eligible for annulment.

People keep saying that, but that option doesn’t appear on the forms. 

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-annul-marriage/apply-for-an-annulment

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/688088/d8n-eng.pdf

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“Hiding information about a previous marriage” isn’t on the annulment petition. I’ve looked at it. Hiding a marriage would only be relevant if someone was still married to that person while getting married to someone else, aka polygamous marriage. The voidable options are directly posted above.

I can’t even find that on the supporting notes for the petition paperwork, and you can take a look at them here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/688091/d8n-notes-eng.pdf

Can you do a reading for annulment between Harry and Meghan.

Let’s establish a few things about annulment first. 

One, some people have said that Meghan was in a civil union/common-law marriage with Cory when she started up with Harry. I think the basis for this is that a lot of articles state that if you live together for a year in Canada while in a relationship that means you’re considered a common-law marriage/civil union. However, when I did some internet research, I found that provinces can regulate it. Toronto is in Ontario, and Ontario states that it must be a continuous relationship while living together for three years. Cory and Megs were only together for two years, so obviously that doesn’t qualify.

Two, what I found when researching annulments in the UK, is that there are 1) not legally valid marriages (”void”), and 2) defective (”voidable”) marriages.

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So, since there is no reason the marriage between Harry and Megs is not legally valid, if Harry wants to annul this marriage, then he would have to go for a reason that the marriage is defective.

  • No one is going to believe that this marriage wasn’t consummated when they couldn’t keep their hands off each other during the wedding. 
  • Megs definitely wasn’t pregnant by another man. 
  • It’s going to be damn hard to prove that Harry didn’t properly consent to the marriage when they gave Megs a tour of the UK with all those engagements. 
  • But “the other person had a sexually transmitted disease when you got married” option I think could be a winner! All they would need to do is have Meg’s sex tape released with lots references to her yachting past (”for a good time call X”) and there are LOTS of people who would be a) shocked and b) might even feel slightly sorry for Harry. (Although I think listing a STD as a reason for an annulment is kind of dumb personally.)

Three, looking for basis of annulments in the Church of England I didn’t come up with as much as I thought I could. I was basically able to find this

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So basically it sounds to me that if Harry can get this marriage legally annulled, then the Church of England will be able to annul it on religious grounds.

I don’t have as much time today to go into things as well as I’d like, but I do think the possibility of annulment exists here. I agree with AHPF’s mom that this relationship will be over after the honeymoon. As other people have noted, Harry wants a wife and kids and actually seems to have some love for Megs. Megs seems to love her new status and all the moolah and jewels coming her way. I do think the fact that Megs didn’t say “I love you” in the engagement interview is going to come back and bite her in the ass this summer.

I don’t expect the UK press to start taking serious potshots at these two until after Ascot. It could totally happen before that, but I think that most of the press will let them have a honeymoon period first. Also, the Trooping of the Colour is not too far away. Prince Louis will have his christening soon. Zara will probably have her baby (babies?) soon. There are several positive, happy events happening within the next 5-6 weeks, so no need to publish Meg’s past when you have readers willingly clicking on positive articles on the royal family. 

But here are some dates of interest that we can take a look and start to gauge things this year:

  • The last full week of June (24-30): Look to see if Harry is treating Megs differently, and if Harry is dishing out cutting remarks about his wife. Maybe he’ll just be mad at Megs draining out his bank accounts by buying shit all the time.
  • 22 July to 04 August: IF there is going to be an annulment, then we will have to see signs of it here I think. 
  • 10 to 23 October: IF it is going to be an annulment, then I would expect it to be completed maybe around this time frame. (No one is going to go for an annulment years down the road.) If it’s going to be a divorce, then perhaps papers will be filed around this time frame. 
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Prince Charles is smart enough to understand when to retire and when to attack. I sincerely believe that Charles has his own plan. I wonder how he will manage Meghan & Catherine. Hary will push Catherine to agree to do something with her Wimbledon style, to be next to Catherine in Ascot. Trooping Color … but saw Catherine’s head in the photos.

I think Charles just has to manage Meghan. Kate can figure out pretty well how to handle Megs.

Prince Charles is not going to remove anything from Harry. Harry, by far, is the son he’s most closest too despite William being his heir. William basically shuts Charles out of his life and that of his kids. Meghan and Harry have little reason to do the same. Charles can use Meghan and Harry more than he can William. Him agreeing to walk her half way down the aisle is some of the most positive press and response from the public he’s seen in a while. People though it was upstanding of him.

Charles is going to distance himself from that dumb-fuck of a younger son he has for the time being. He may get public pr points from walking Megs down a quarter aisle, but he knows Megs is a pr disaster waiting to happen. 

So if she is worth 5 milion why she havwn’t pay for her 75k engagement dress or her 200k wedding dress? It’s easy to be a feminist with the money of your husband!! Lol

Or the money of your father-in-law! She doesn’t have 5 million in the bank. People who say that have no idea what her expenses are for being an actor–management, agent, etc. Plus there are her living expenses, taxes, etc.

She’s richer than the average person in the US, but she is not 5 million in the bank rich.

I do not think the British press will wait a long time. Daily Mail will hit first. They alert people to the Oprah interview … in a small tab. The games will start early June for me.

I think Fleet Street will only throw soft punches from here until after the main royal events in June are done. I’m guessing after Ascot is over we might see a change. Probably late July or August for big shit for sure.

UK papers are going to have a fun summer.