Oh yeah, I saw it. That kind of delusion is AMAZING! She’s BFF with Serena, don’t you know? Doesn’t matter that Serena didn’t invite Megs to HER wedding. I have no idea where they come up with some of these things like her supposed friendship with Amal since 2014?! Um, where’s the proof? Even Celebitchy was like, why were George & Amal sitting in prime seats?
No mention of Megs and Amal being friends while Megs was living in Toronto, and Amal was living nowhere near Toronto!
Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.
At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street.
But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.
When you compare Meghan and Fergie, and how their timelines will play out, I think that may be a mistake.
Meghan has been on a timeline all her own for a while now, although the Duchess of Windsor would probably be a closer comparison.
Even then, tho…..
Meghan was so tacky at the beginning with the pics of bananas and British tea, people were convinced for a solid week after they dropped they were dating that couldn’t possibly happen in any reality involving actual royal people.
And then, only a week into the relationship, all her skeletons started to fall out, and Harry did that statement. Well, people accepted they were together, and that Harry was obviously serious. But I think the statement mostly made people uncomfortable. It had never happened before, called a whole slew of people racist. It was uncomfortable.
And then she pap walked in all British brands DAYS later. And then pap walked in an H and M necklace a month later.
Harry’s mistake of flying out to see her at the end of a tour, when he should have gone home. People are going to think, why not he wanted to see his girlfriend. When someone is walking around downtown London, on a sunny day, in wellies, and Barbour, you look tacky. She would have looked less tacky and touristy in socks and sandals and an usa t-shirt.
The months following are the same pattern. Most of Harry’s public mistakes, while they shouldn’t have happened, were him flying to see her when he shouldn’t have. Or inviting her on that African “working holliday” when he shouldn’t have. That just translates to a majority of the public like he really wanted to see her. I’d be mad if that was my tax money, but he just looks like a guy trying to see his then girlfriend as often as possible.
Meghan, on the other hand, kept posting “clues” on her IG, keeps pap walking, keeps forcing herself into situations where she clearly isn’t trying to fit in. Skippy’s wedding, Pippa’s wedding, and polo were all awkward as hell. And a nation that grew up with the boys, and is used to what the boys normally look like with their girlfriends, can see with their own eyes that something is off.
Couple that with her father’s family don’t have much nice to say, her mother’s family don’t have much nice to say, colleagues don’t have much nice to say, ex boyfriends and husband’ don’t have much nice to say, agents don’t have much nice to say, NO ONE has much nice to say, and all revealed at a steady stream over a year, and you have a problem.
This engagement and wedding should have been the turn around.
But she talked to Vanity Fair, and publicly did that walkabout during Invictus. I think they could have pulled off Invictus, IF Meghan hadnt done Vanity fair, revealed she’d been talking to the media for months, before obviously courting them at Invictus, and then standing around looking like a hooker in raccoon eyes with two of the cheapest people I have ever seen in Royal presence. Anderson and Mulroney. Meghan is incapable of class, or decorum, or anything resembling admiration. How do you admire raccoon eyes? And messy hair? Both Chelsy and Cressida managed to go to public outtings with Harry while looking like they hadn’t called the media first.
And then papped before that sorry excuse for an engagement announcement. A nation that sees royal engagement announcements on a regular basis knew that wasn’t how they happen. Eugenie getting it so right only a few months later highlight that. Not that I think Eugenie knows how to deal with he media, but she clearly asked for palace help with that.
And then ALL THE LEAKING. Meghan can put out as many surgery articles as she wants. The constant attention isn’t only unsustainable, it’s crazy. Brangelina didn’t survive the constant media attention, Twilight didn’t survive the constant media attention. If you oversaturate the market , the public turns you into a meme.
And Meghan’s meme is already set. Her father’s family weren’t at the wedding, her mother’s family weren’t at the wedding. The wedding was tacky, and the opposite of royal. And her father, at least according to press, was in a charity hospital in Mexico while Meghan was off playing pretty pretty princess.
That tacky fest is going to bite her in the booty later, because everyone wound up looking good except her. Her mother had to show up by herself, because Meghan didn’t even give her a plus one, and Prince Charles stepped up, and took care of the mother, and walked Meghan down the aisle. There were tons of articles praising Charles for being a gentleman everywhere.
The royal family were very welcoming, their children were part of the wedding. The showed up, and showed support.
And Harry. Dear God. The engagement interview looked like he was besotted, and all the coverage that involved her was calling out lies. Everyone remembers he said he loved her, and was looking forward to being a team. Everyone remembers she said she had no idea who he was, and hoped he was nice, with accompanying pics of her sitting outside Buckingham Palace. And several people that knew her stepping up to call her out on that.
And during the wedding, Harry cried. Apparently twice. He has become an internet meme for how a groom is supposed to look at his bride. And sat there, turned sideways in his chair, legs as close to her as possible, and clutched her hand for a solid hour. Apparently while crying. Twice.
She just held out her hand, and kept attention toward the cameras. Not showing affection back, while her father was, at least according to the mirror, in a charity hospital, and her poor all alone mother was being taken care of by the royal family.
Harry talks about how amazing she is, and how much he loves her. She talks about how she is a proud feminist, and is a social justice warrior. I don’t think she’ ever said publicly she loves him. Something the press haven’ forgotten with Charles.
Wallis Simpson was just divorced. She didn’t have social media to embaress herself in such a fashion. And she had the good sense not to call the media.
ALL of this is going to come into play later. When people admit, during the divorce, that they always knew this wasn’t going to work out, they are going to replay all this stuff from the beginning. And Meghan has done all this publicly. Pics of Harry clutching her, crying, are going to be the meme when they announce the divorce. How is she supposed to counter that? Say that sometimes, privately, he could be mean?
This is all the stuff that is gonna make her look bad. Not even including the possible first marriage, the sex tape, the naked pics, one of which happened after she met Harry, and the possible yachting, if true. Heather Mills didn’t have this wrong with her. Until the prostitution crap came out, people geniuely believed in the beginning she loved Paul.
And we haven’t gotten into when they call her in the papping and merching. Harry hasn’t been as obvious as her. And hasn’t had Jessica piblicly commenting on it. The public was furious when they thought her father did it to her, and what are they supposed to think when they find out she did it to the royal family?
She is going to be Wallis Simpson, Heather Mills, and Urdangarin all rolled into one. She has, rather impressively, done every royal scandal ever all in the span if two years.
And she is already unpopular from the beginning. No royal bride has had this many problems, not even Wallis Simpson. Whatever happened to Wallis during her wedding to Edward, no one knows. She didn’t call the media.
I highly doubt ALL of this comes out. But I bet a good bit of it does.
Harry has made plenty of mistakes during this relationship, but at the end, I think the public will consider his biggest mistake was falling for her in the first place.
These are all very good points. There’s also the fact hat the media moves A LOT faster now than it did in the eighties.
I hold on to the Fergie timeline because I like having a basis for my opinions, but you’re right, it may not take that long.
This why rolled my eyes so hard during Will & Kate’s US tour, but at least that one was official receptions and it felt like it was the celebs wanting to meet Will & Kate and not the other way around.
This is obviously the Slutsexes kowtowing to a bunch of celebs they barely know and letting them use the wedding for self-promotion and merching.
Even if they were there, why weren’t they sitting in the quire where Meghan’s family is supposed to be? It’s unacceptable to me that if they were there MEGHAN stuck them in the back. Like, Serena Williams’ AGENT was sitting in the quire section across from the royal family, but if you’re a blood relation to the bride you have to sit in the back???
If Harry wants to remarry in a few years time, then people are going to be annoyed because he’ll look like a serial marriage person. It’s just not a good look all around.
Well, I remember people complaining that Harry & Megs shouldn’t have really gotten a wedding in the Church of England this time because Megs is divorced, but they gave them a pass on it.
So, I’m sure it’ll be up to the CoE again to decide if they’re going to give them a pass on it or not.
Tina Brown says that the gospel choir was Prince Charles’ idea. Makes sense that he’d hav to encourage them to get their act together and suggest musicians & singers for them to include. Remember that the choir and ‘cellist were announced rather late. Note also that the harpist at the wedding was the official harpist to the Prince of Wales.
True. But I don’t know if she’ll attend this year anyway since she’s on maternity leave until the fall. I think she became patron in 2016, which is after Charlotte was born. Perhaps the Kents will just go since they were involved with Wimbledon for so many years instead.
Well, the people you’re talking about have just straight up lied to people about an agreement, fake engagement, blackmail, etc.
I think the possibility of an annulment exists if this marriage implodes over the summer. We’ll just have to wait and see what kind of fireworks go off after the 4th of July.
Maybe. It might just depend how quickly this thing unravels. We’ll know for sure by the beginning of September I think. If Harry ever wanted to have a wedding in a church to someone else, then he would have to get an annulment or else he’d probably have to settle for a civil ceremony with a blessing afterwards like his dad.
Megs most certainly was on social media before she met Harry. She had both a twitter account and an instagram account. She had a lifestyle website called “The Tig.” Please learn how to research before you come to someone who actually reads something other than fanfiction for a living.
And as for why she’s a famewhore? How about this?
That’s Meghan talking PUBLICLY about a PRIVATE relationship to the glossiest glossy magazine in the USA. IF she wasn’t a famewhore, then why would she be on the cover, since as you just said “nobody knew who she was till Harry.” Oh that’s right, she’s a famewhore of the first order since she’ll sell anyone out as long as she can get her press.
No fucking way am I interested in dating, fucking, or marrying Harry’s whiny, petty, petulant, insecure ass. You go on right ahead pretending that he’s Mr. Nice Prince that would never ever have the Kensington Palace press office release all sorts of terrible, secret shit on Meghan when the day comes. And that day will probably come sooner rather than later.
You’ve got a lot to learn about the British royal family and the UK press my dear.
I think that’s one of the big advantages she has here. The BRF is used to dealing with people who resent small snubs like getting a bad title, or an ugly tiara, or no coat of arms, or a bad seat. Meghan DOES NOT CARE. All she cares about is the fame part of it–the BS Weekly covers, the merch, the photographers.
The rest of it is just not important to her. That’s why she had a crap cake and takeout pizza for her wedding. She only cares about the royal trappings insofar as they will translate into press coverage.
The problem I have with that is that Megs stopped being with Cory in 2016. Wedding happened in 2018. That’s a year and a half separation at a minimum. It seems really hard to justify that there’s an overlap causing a conflict with this marriage.
Does it mean that Harry was fucking Megs while she was still with Cory? I have no doubt that is the case. But Cory and Megs went their separate ways before an engagement happened.
The Queen has reigned for more than 60 years but nobody has a clue what she thinks about anything.
“Hiding information about a previous marriage” isn’t on the annulment petition. I’ve looked at it. Hiding a marriage would only be relevant if someone was still married to that person while getting married to someone else, aka polygamous marriage. The voidable options are directly posted above.
I can’t even find that on the supporting notes for the petition paperwork, and you can take a look at them here:
Let’s establish a few things about annulment first.
One, some people have said that Meghan was in a civil union/common-law marriage with Cory when she started up with Harry. I think the basis for this is that a lot of articles state that if you live together for a year in Canada while in a relationship that means you’re considered a common-law marriage/civil union. However, when I did some internet research, I found that provinces can regulate it. Toronto is in Ontario, and Ontario states that it must be a continuous relationship while living together for three years. Cory and Megs were only together for two years, so obviously that doesn’t qualify.
Two, what I found when researching annulments in the UK, is that there are 1) not legally valid marriages (”void”), and 2) defective (”voidable”) marriages.
So, since there is no reason the marriage between Harry and Megs is not legally valid, if Harry wants to annul this marriage, then he would have to go for a reason that the marriage is defective.
No one is going to believe that this marriage wasn’t consummated when they couldn’t keep their hands off each other during the wedding.
Megs definitely wasn’t pregnant by another man.
It’s going to be damn hard to prove that Harry didn’t properly consent to the marriage when they gave Megs a tour of the UK with all those engagements.
But “the other person had a sexually transmitted disease when you got married” option I think could be a winner! All they would need to do is have Meg’s sex tape released with lots references to her yachting past (”for a good time call X”) and there are LOTS of people who would be a) shocked and b) might even feel slightly sorry for Harry. (Although I think listing a STD as a reason for an annulment is kind of dumb personally.)
Three, looking for basis of annulments in the Church of England I didn’t come up with as much as I thought I could. I was basically able to find this:
So basically it sounds to me that if Harry can get this marriage legally annulled, then the Church of England will be able to annul it on religious grounds.
I don’t have as much time today to go into things as well as I’d like, but I do think the possibility of annulment exists here. I agree with AHPF’s mom that this relationship will be over after the honeymoon. As other people have noted, Harry wants a wife and kids and actually seems to have some love for Megs. Megs seems to love her new status and all the moolah and jewels coming her way. I do think the fact that Megs didn’t say “I love you” in the engagement interview is going to come back and bite her in the ass this summer.
I don’t expect the UK press to start taking serious potshots at these two until after Ascot. It could totally happen before that, but I think that most of the press will let them have a honeymoon period first. Also, the Trooping of the Colour is not too far away. Prince Louis will have his christening soon. Zara will probably have her baby (babies?) soon. There are several positive, happy events happening within the next 5-6 weeks, so no need to publish Meg’s past when you have readers willingly clicking on positive articles on the royal family.
But here are some dates of interest that we can take a look and start to gauge things this year:
The last full week of June (24-30): Look to see if Harry is treating Megs differently, and if Harry is dishing out cutting remarks about his wife. Maybe he’ll just be mad at Megs draining out his bank accounts by buying shit all the time.
22 July to 04 August: IF there is going to be an annulment, then we will have to see signs of it here I think.
10 to 23 October: IF it is going to be an annulment, then I would expect it to be completed maybe around this time frame. (No one is going to go for an annulment years down the road.) If it’s going to be a divorce, then perhaps papers will be filed around this time frame.
Charles is going to distance himself from that dumb-fuck of a younger son he has for the time being. He may get public pr points from walking Megs down a quarter aisle, but he knows Megs is a pr disaster waiting to happen.
OMG, are you kidding? She’s got to be one of the biggest famewhores I’ve EVER SEEN. She would not even invite her mother’s family to her wedding, so her mom had to attend while not knowing a single person there except her daughter.
Or the money of your father-in-law! She doesn’t have 5 million in the bank. People who say that have no idea what her expenses are for being an actor–management, agent, etc. Plus there are her living expenses, taxes, etc.
She’s richer than the average person in the US, but she is not 5 million in the bank rich.
I think Fleet Street will only throw soft punches from here until after the main royal events in June are done. I’m guessing after Ascot is over we might see a change. Probably late July or August for big shit for sure.