Inspite of yesterday’s disaster I still don’t see annulment. 1) harry is too thick to realise that he made a wrong decision. 2) even if he did realise, he’s too coward to accept responsibility 3) he doesnt have the guts to call it off especially as mm “left” her everything for h (he would think so) 4) mm won’t leave without a kid, her retirement for literally her entire life 5) the family will not intervene until harry says so 6) again, Harry is a coward to accept his mistakes

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I think even if Megsy used DoS post marriage, the US public (probably UK) would make fun of her (sans the sugar/stans), because it pretentious and not very “American” Lol so she can go ahead and try. Sure the media or her PR but it’ll eventually bite her in the ass much like what’s happening right now. 🙄 #wordsaladvomit

Meh. Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, used it quite a bit in the US when she was doing ads for Weight Watchers years ago. Back then people remembered she was part of royalty, and that was how she got endorsement deals to shill stuff.

I just do not see a US tour. And given the vibes between them already we may see that this upcoming tour has the cracks showing so obviously there won’t be anymore tours. I know some see Harry as tryin to get her attention today but I see Harry acting out. 16 days together – they can’t act that well. No US tour. No Canadian tour either.

Yeah, I don’t buy a US tour at this point either. If it hasn’t been announced, then there’s no guarantee it’s happening. I would imagine that the Queen and the Foreign Office would want to see how the currently scheduled tour to Australia, Fiji, Tonga, etc., goes before publicly announcing anything else. 

Those two are going to be fried after 16 days in public. Whatever charm they start out with will be spent by the time they get to the very end.

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The Kay article is calling MM out and alerting the public to Meghan’s new royal rules. Yes it is incendiary. The Brits will hate it. It shows a lack of respect for their institution. MM don’t care she only cares about US market. Kay is a PC mouthpiece. MM made it very clear today she has given up on the royal thing and is full on headed towards her post Harry life. Unless she is so out of control and overexcited she forgets herself?

I don’t think she’s giving up the royal thing yet. I think she’s savoring her moments in the limelight. She can never have enough of that. 

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Meghan wont leave without having her milestones checked off—> 1st solo engagement, 1st tour, solo engagement with Charles, engagement with HM/Cam/Kate, 1st tiara event, 1st overseas solo trip, 1st patronage & 1st Remembrance day & US solo trip. Thats all I can think of as I dont think she will be successful at having a kid. Plus I dont think the RF will grant her a solo interview.

I don’t think she’s ever going to get a solo engagement with Charles. Certainly not at this point. And she’ll never get an overseas solo trip. There’s no benefit to the royal family for that. 

I don’t think she’ll be able to have a kid either. 

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this is the dope re: title. MM does not technically have a title Harry has one and she shares in it as his wife. At a divorce she loses title but can use “Duchess of Sussex” as her surname. Meghan Duchess of Sussex is her name. Just as you would be Mrs. Jane Doe if you divorced Mr. John Doe but no longer Mrs. John Doe. But she has no title. Harrys 2nd wife would share the title not an ex wife. But of course the US would ignore all that which is what Markle counts on.

Your last line there is key: “the US would ignore all that.” 

Exactly. 

Asking Americans to care about the difference between Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, is pointless. They’re not going to care because the important word of distinction to Americans is “duchess.” Americans are not going to care whether or not a definite article is placed before the word “duchess.” The fact that someone is using the word “duchess” in relation to someone is what is worthy of note.

No one in the US is going to stop Megsy going around calling herself Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. That girl will use it until she dies. 

I think her confidence at this event was something altogether. I think she sees this as the start of her Diana campaign. She got good press with the book launch so she went full on into this in Diana mode. Hugging people and behaving like the great humanitarian she thinks she is. This is her “we’re going to change the world” moment. She’ll behave like this from now on I think. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep.

All we have to do is wait until next week with her “Oceania” exhibit engagement.

I never believed MM was a narc, I always thought she was just someone who took a golden opportunity and used it to her best advantage. Now… I’m not so sure. With this cookbook all she did was hook the charity up with a publisher but she was taking all the credit. The foreword was all about her, her favourite food, where she lived and it was exactly the same with the speech. It was about her favourite things, how she loves the diversity etc. Now I’m sure she’s got her because she’s a narc

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Exactly. The royals have done this for decades and the foreword is always short with maybe one personal anecdote and they are never on the cover. It’s a HUGE contrast.

filmgifs:

The walls are banked with sprays of flowers in my two shades of Blush and Bashful, pink carpet specially laid out for my service, and pink silk bunting draped over anything that would stand still. That sanctuary looks like it’s been hosed down with Pepto-Bismol.
Steel Magnolias (1989) dir. Herbert Ross

Self serving Douch@ss called out by DM

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6191501/If-Orla-Keily-stopped-treating-shoppers-like-mugs-JAN-MOIR-designers-downfall.html

“The trips were so secret she took only a small camera crew with her, all the better to make a tiny film" 

“And while it would be wrong to think the caring Duchess is using the people of Grenfell to burnish her own caring credentials, isn’t there something a tiny bit self-serving at the heart of this endeavour?”

Jan Moir calls out Meghan. Scroll down for the blurb. I think all UK journalists are so onto her. It’s a matter of walking the fine line between hanging onto their jobs and being able to say what they really think. 


Thanks for sending this in! I think everyone knows what this was really about.

BTW, I hadn’t noticed that gorgeous pink coat. The community kitchen ladies were serious styling during this event.

Hold on, are they saying they told Eugenie to hold her engagement after Harry, meaning announcing after him in 2018? Or did they just let it slip that they knew he was going to marry Meghan and palace told Eugenie no wedding in 2017 but 2018 after Harry?

anonymoushouseplantfan:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6192941/Royal-insider-claims-Princess-Eugenie-planned-wed-YEAR.html

There were a ton of rumors in December 2016 about Eugenie getting engaged. Emily Andrews swore that it was going to happen.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/741569/Princess-Eugenie-ring-engagement-finger-royal-family-prince-andrew

They first blamed the delay on the Ivy Cottage repairs.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/766168/damp-bill-row-cold-water-Princess-Eugenie-dream-home-plans

The anon the person sent saying you can’t use a title unless you’re a UK citizen is wrong. The Duchess of Windsor never became a citizen of the UK. She always maintained her American citizenship for obvious reasons (the UK would never give her citizenship). And yet she was allowed to call herself the Duchess of Windsor by the King (and later the Queen). The UK doesn’t give titles like Dame or Sir to citizens of the US but if they marry into the family, it’s different.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Thanks!

Oh Megsy is so done with Harry and the royal shit. I am even more convinced this is the beginning of her massive pr push to establish her brand and then she splits. Doria was there as part of the MM separate from Harry identity ploy. But note she still needed Harry there as a prop. If today is an indicator this won’t be taking 2 yrs. She is in a rush.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I’m still holding on to my 2-yr. guess, but this is going pretty fast.

Definitely less than 2 years.

Oh, I knew the Al Manaar mosque’s connections would be brought up. But I hope these people realise Charles opened the centre years ago (he’s very big on multi cultural diversity) and they (RF) have been connected to the centre for a very long time, so I don’t know why they’re pinning this on Meghan. Re. the David Vance tweet.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yeah, I have a ton of anons about it, but I don’t really have time to research it. 

Richard Kay says it was completely appropriate that Doria was there… um in what world? He’s like oh we’d never see Carole at an engagement – yeah because Carole doesn’t need to come along and Kate is fine on her own… honestly!

motherofbulldogs:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think Kay is getting this crap straight from Meghan. That explains why he has been blaming the royals for the Markle debacle all along.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5858359/RICHARD-KAY-Markle-debacle-two.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902447/Is-Meghan-cut-ties-father.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6053117/RICHARD-KAY-Royals-handling-Thomas-Markle-debacle-turning-existential-crisis.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6053117/RICHARD-KAY-Royals-handling-Thomas-Markle-debacle-turning-existential-crisis.html

Exactly. This is what Meghan is saying through KP using Richard Kay as a mouthpiece. She’s trying to normalize her non-royal mother as part of the royal family for her appearances.

Meghan has already made up her mind. She’s leaving and leaving soon. My money is around Christmas time or very soon after. I don’t think she’s planning to stay through spring.

nenny84:

houseofbrat:

nenny84:

houseofbrat:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think she will. She needs the US tour, a documentary, and some more magazine covers. I also think she’s still trying for a baby.

Megs can’t leave on her own after Christmas. That would make it an automatic annulment. She wouldn’t get to keep her title like she would in a divorce. She would have nothing to negotiate with against the royal family.

She doesn’t keep the tittle even after divorce. She’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose it fully cos the title is Harry’s NOT HERS. You cannot have 2 Duchess of Sussex. Also bear in mind the only reason why Fergie still has it is cos Andrew has not remarried, if he had Fergie would loose it too. And no they won’t be Ms MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR neither. That does not work that way with the BRF !!!!

Let’s remember that Megsy will live in the US after the marriage is over. The US press isn’t as likely to adhere to UK protocol. She will use that title as long as she can. The only way to ensure that she doesn’t use it is to make it crystal clear from the get-go that she does not have a right to use the title after the marriage is over. If it’s not crystal clear, then she’s going to use all the wiggle room she possibly can. 

Harry remarrying wouldn’t stop her is my point.

I hear you and understand exactly what you mean. But once the divorce is set and finalised she’ll have a clause where that will be explained that she’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose the Duchess part too. If she goes on to be stubborn and a narc and uses it she can be prosecuted no matter where she is. It’s illegal and that’ll carry all over. And in the US she won’t be able to use it as a US citizen as it won’t be recognised. She’ll just go back to being Ms markle and I bet you the UK press will piss her off using the “former” word every time they mention her and hazza new wife…

I don’t really want to go back and forth on this, but in the US as it stands right now, her title has no meaning in the USA even as she’s an HRH as of this very moment. Meghan is still a US citizen right now. She hasn’t renounced her US citizenship. She’s not a British citizen yet, and she very likely won’t ever be. 

There is nothing in US law that would prohibit her using it because titles are not part of US law and custom. No one is going to arrest her in the US if she had “Duchess of Sussex” on her stationary and insisted on it being used in press appearances. She is not going to be prosecuted in the US for it.

The US press doesn’t care about UK protocol. The US entertainment & celebrity press, which publishes all of Meg’s pr missives, cares even less. As they’ve proven time and again, they take the pr email and publish it as is.

Megsy is way more interested in US press coverage in the long term anyway. You’re insisting that Megsy care more about the press in a country of 66 million versus the press in a country of 326 million. It’s been pretty obvious up to now that she plays to the US press & audience because that’s the one she truly cares about. And those people are NOT going to care about UK law and stipulations.

Meghan has already made up her mind. She’s leaving and leaving soon. My money is around Christmas time or very soon after. I don’t think she’s planning to stay through spring.

nenny84:

houseofbrat:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think she will. She needs the US tour, a documentary, and some more magazine covers. I also think she’s still trying for a baby.

Megs can’t leave on her own after Christmas. That would make it an automatic annulment. She wouldn’t get to keep her title like she would in a divorce. She would have nothing to negotiate with against the royal family.

She doesn’t keep the tittle even after divorce. She’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose it fully cos the title is Harry’s NOT HERS. You cannot have 2 Duchess of Sussex. Also bear in mind the only reason why Fergie still has it is cos Andrew has not remarried, if he had Fergie would loose it too. And no they won’t be Ms MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR neither. That does not work that way with the BRF !!!!

Let’s remember that Megsy will live in the US after the marriage is over. The US press isn’t as likely to adhere to UK protocol. She will use that title as long as she can. The only way to ensure that she doesn’t use it is to make it crystal clear from the get-go that she does not have a right to use the title after the marriage is over. If it’s not crystal clear, then she’s going to use all the wiggle room she possibly can. 

Harry remarrying wouldn’t stop her is my point.

if it becomes an issue when it’s separate then how is it an issue with Doria? Harry and Meghan were going to take that car anyway, right? it’s not like Doria is getting her own car? just trying to understand

lovingtheroyals:

The “its an issue when it’s separate” line was about RPOs. Not about cars. So if Doria is standing away from Meghan at an event and has an RPO with her, that’s an issue. But if the RPO is with Meghan and Doria happens to be standing next to her, that’s fine.

The transportation thing, is another issue. Harry and Meghan’s travel is taxpayer funded when they’re at work because they are public representatives. Doria is not entitled to use those means of transportation. Harry and Meghan’s private vehicles that they use in their private time are not taxpayer funded and Doria could totally ride in one of those. So her riding in the car with Harry and Meghan is her using taxpayer funded means of travel which is not okay. What should have happened is that she should have arrived separately from them in one of Harry’s private cars. Does that make sense?

The RF are never going to release dirt on Meghan while she’s married to Harry. I think they’ve likely had long term strategy meetings instead. Most of it is how they can minimize the damage she can cause when the divorce inevitably comes. And that means giving her what she wants now so she can’t complain about them later. It’s the “but we welcomed her with open arms” defense. They’re not going to risk that by smearing her in the press. t’s not about the battle, it’s about winning the war.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Exactly.

I just had a thought , instead of 7 years itch, could it be 7 months itch in case of h&m? Hoping fingers crossed for that , but personally I don’t think shell leave without a kid, as long/short it might take. But what’s your take on “7”? Coz apart from this manyyyyy tarot readers have also been seeing ” 10″ again and again.

From this article, I think it’s important to remember that the author does both Western and Vedic astrology at this point in time, but when he made his prediction regarding Charles & Diana on the radio, he only did Western astrology at the time. He doesn’t talk about Charles’ chart in detail at all, so if you’re not familiar with it, then you might think that this 7-year-itch thing is the only possible technique to predict marriage dissolution. So let’s take a look at Charles’ chart then.

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Charles has a Cancer ascendant, his ascendant lord (Moon) is in the 10th house. His 7th house (marriage/partnership) is ruled by Saturn. Saturn is placed in his 2nd house (Leo) in Magha nakshatra. Charles’ Venus is debilitated in Virgo, but it does receive some help with Mercury (Virgo’s ruler) since they are in a Parivartana yoga (mutual exchange). 

Charles didn’t have the best chart for marriage before you get to planetary transits. His 7th house lord (Saturn) is placed in another maraka house (2nd house). 2nd house is also a financial house. Leo is ruled by the Sun. Sun and Saturn are in different planetary camps (in Vedic system). Sun belongs to the devas, and Saturn belongs to the asuras. All in all, it’s not a very favorable indication for marriage, and basically points to divorce, which we all know at this point happened. 

When the author talks about Harry & Meghan’s dashas at the end of his article, I don’t think they’ll be married at that point, so it probably doesn’t matter. I think it’s more significant to consider Harry’s Jupiter-Saturn dasha, which goes from May 2027 to November 2029, and it’s relationship to William. The 11th house is the sign of the older brother; the 3rd house is the house of siblings in general. Saturn rules Harry’s 3rd house (Aquarius) where it is placed in his 11th house (Libra). Saturn is exalted in Libra, and it’s maximum exaltation is at 20 degrees. Harry’s Saturn is at 19 degrees and 12 minutes Libra, so it is at its maximum exaltation. I’m more willing to bet that William at this time is already Prince of Wales when Harry starts his Jupiter-Saturn dasha.

Then I think it’s necessary to take a look at both Charles & Williams charts & dasha sequences. In January of 2029, Saturn will be in Aries transiting Ashwini nakshatra, which is where Charles’ ascendant lord (Moon) is placed. Charles begins his Saturn-Saturn dasha on January 16, 2029, while Saturn is transiting his Moon, and I don’t think it’s a good sign. Because Charles’ Saturn is a maraka (death-inflicting planet) by its ownership of the 7th house, and it is placed in another maraka house (2nd), it probably has serious death-inflicting capabilities. Couple that with William beginning his Mercury-Mercury dasha on February 19, 2029. Mercury rules William’s 10th house (career). I think it’s likely that William will have a sudden change in his career in 2029. 

To bring this back to Harry, Harry lost his mother (Diana) during his first Sade Sati (late 90s/early 2000s). Sade Sati is when Saturn transits the house 12th, 1st, and 2nd from the natal moon. I think it’s just likely that Harry will lose his father during his second Sade Sati, ten plus years from now. 

I think the the tarot card “10″ probably refers to October. I think it’s possible/likely that the marriage between Harry & Megs is over in October–at least behind the scenes–but that getting to actually commit that end to paper will take a few more months. Perhaps the total number of months they’re married before the paperwork is finalized and accepted is 10 months. 

Dear Jehovah, did he just put his chin on her shoulder? Meghan is busy getting her peasants into formation for the group photo and Harry is grooming her. Dear boy, desperation is not a good look.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

And it’s going to get worse.

Yeah, but after he’s desperate for attention, he’s likely going to start lashing out because he doesn’t get what he wanted. Things aren’t going his way, so he’ll probably lash out verbally, even if we don’t see it.

so it sees we are in a minority here but I agree – they won’t make it to two yrs. This is done before they celebrate any anniversary. Paperwork might take awhile but her pr shows we are heading towards end date faster than people anticipated. This big push she has now is her last gasp. Only question is what kind of paperwork and who pulls the plug. My bet is on the BRF – they end it their way.

I’m still betting on an annulment. It would make the situation easier on the BRF long term. She won’t get to keep a title. Harry could marry someone else within the CoE without needing to just get a blessing. Megs would just be something to be forgotten eventually in the UK.

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I’m reallyyyyu doubting a US tour for harkles. Remember they think they “own” the Commonwealth and theyll tour all the countries. It might be on mm’s agenda but not on brf’s agenda especially till trump is President. You know.. After her direct remarks on him I don’t think they can visit US, meet Obama and snub trump. Of course if Obama makes another visit to UK, they’ll definitely meet him.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Maybe, but I disagree. I think it’s a done deal. She needs it, and she would not be devaluing Harry like this if she hadn’t gotten it.

Unless it’s announced, then the plans can always change.

A lot of the tarot readers are seeing a financial scandal or something occurring in October or maybe further out. I won’t be surprised by financial scandal. Her merching and relationship with JM is dicey as all hell. What do you see re: scandal and October?

I’m not going to harbor any guesses as to what could or couldn’t come out. Since you mentioned it, I think the UK press doing an article about the merching with Jessica Mulroney is probably a big possibility. Megs will probably be wearing different, expensive, couture ensembles multiple times a day. Writing about the huge cost of her wardrobe for that tour practically writes itself. It’s a 16-day tour. By day 7 the press will already have seen almost half of it. Multiple articles could easily be written. And it will be very easy to point out that Kate works with a much smaller budget. 

I know that tarot readers have said that secrets will be revealed–as in things Megs is hiding that Harry doesn’t know about–but I’m not convinced that those are the kinds of things that will instantly come out in the press. It’s certainly possible. But it could be just revealed to Harry and the royal family and not the press at that stage. Perhaps the press just writes about it later. We’ll just have to see. 

Here are two of Naomi Tarot’s most recent readings regarding Meghan’s secret.

From September 6:

And from September 18: