The BRF at home have not lost any standing at all re Markle debarkle. No one is discussing in general media any of the points maade on here (which, by the way, I enjoy). The blog is putting MM and H at the centre of the debate, therefore centre stage. Not happening in the UK. Only interested when there is an event and that only in the tabloids. The US perspective on here is not reflecting the UK

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Thanks! Always good to have an on-the-ground perspective. I do think the “celeb vs. royal” debate has been going on for a while in the UK, though. I’ve seen several articles about it. The Spectator has had a couple and Hilary Mantel did some essays and someone else prominent who I can’t remember right now. I even found an Australian one.  This is just another slide down a slippery slope, imo.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/made-in-windsor-how-kate-william-and-harry-became-britains-biggest-reality-tv-show/

https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P4-1970362860/the-trouble-with-miss-markle

https://www.afr.com/opinion/celebrity-monarchs-rule-20100131-iw40y

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/hilary-mantel-duchess-of-cambridge

On the 27th,Katie Nicholl to VF ”What It Costs to Dress Like Meghan Markle:An Investigation”….’The royal family are understood TO HAVE COVERED THE COST of Meghan’s two wedding dresses/ Katie received a KP call,because on the 28,E! ”Here’s How Much Meghan Markle’s Royal Wardrobe Has Cost’…’It may be that Meghan contributed certainly some of the costs for either of those wedding dresses,or perhaps both of those wedding dresses” MM ‘Contributed with some of the costs’ LOLOLOL

anonymoushouseplantfan:

The merch discount was her “contribution.”

still say no baby but yeah everything you see now is simply prepping for the divorce. However – if she cannot get those luxury brand endorsements she is not leaving. She will cling. She should have given this up a long time ago but girl has no game and hung on too long. She should have broken the engagement and ridden out on a wave created by “I am woman hear me roar” BS.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Nah, she needs two years to establish herself as a “royal.” That’s partly why we have to many appearances with the family. 

And this is why I say Harry is going to dump her first.

I doubt the RF or Harry think her haplessness is adorable. And given it is just a month after the tacky wedding and Harry has given up the pretense that suggests to me that he already had lost the glow before the wedding. IMHO she cornered him with the race thing and the I gave up my job for you. And the predicate resentment over that has appeared. It will get worse. The trip to IRE will drive him up the wall.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think he honestly expected her to be a superstar at this.

she has done what 4 events in 5 weeks and 3 of those – TTC AWRDS Garden Party are what the British consider not work. So it will be hard to say all that money is justified by her work ethic. Especially when Kate who usually does more work than MM spends no where near that amount. The only ones trying to justify the expense are the US media – her media.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

True.

Holy heck, the Givenchy cape dress was $20k??????? Her wedding dress what $440k????????? How in the world?????

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/red-carpet-dresses/a21999929/how-much-do-meghan-markles-clothes-cost/

I saw Harry at the British Polo day yesterday. His team won their game. We heard Meghan was down by the tents “eating a sandwich” but didn’t want to come up to the main enclosure as people would stare. But who knows?! That was just the rumour as noone actually saw her. There was a lot of international royalty playing yesterday. This is the Audi polo anon from last year that no one believed btw! ;) Harry looked happy, relaxed, was gracious & friendly with everyone but no MM confirmed sightings

anonymoushouseplantfan:

OMG, thank you for dropping in Audi polo anon. I loved your anons last year You made that event a ton of fun!

According to Hello! she wasn’t there, but she may show up to other games because “she’s a fan of the game.”

https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2018062849822/prince-harry-polo-match-where-meghan/

It wasn’t IMHO the engagement per se it is her whole situation that is causing her stress. An unreliable husband she manipulated into an engagement and marriage, a hostile family and public, the knowledge she is not doing well and her fear of the UK tablids (justifiable) and what may yet be revealed, no friends or family for support. Selling herself as something she clearly is not and unable to perform. Lots of stress. So she medicates.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Maybe E! is now lamesplaining the relationship with the father.

https://www.eonline.com/news/947147/the-truth-about-the-complicated-relationship-between-meghan-markle-and-her-father-thomas

Rachel/Megs got herself into this situation. She only has herself to blame. No one forced her to get engaged to Harry and marry him.

Who’s that girl? << The Madonna of the Palace

anonymoushouseplantfan:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

We reported a few weeks ago that some of the more old school members of the Royal household didn’t know what to make of the new Duchess of Sussex, so invented the nickname “Meghan The Menace”.

Their eyebrows have been raised further with Ms Markle’s choice of personal aide. Not a tried and trusted Royal adviser or an experienced aristo to help her navigate the choppy waters of royal etiquette, but someone from the celebrity world, whose biggest previous job was working for Madonna.

Buckingham Palace staff are already dining out on a tale of how Meghan’s new girl was calling up big brands and asking for freebies, as if her boss was in the cast of Love Island rather than married to the Queen’s grandson.

From this week’s Popitch


Whoa! Thank you so much for sending this in.

Here’s the “few weeks ago” item, in case anyone is interested:

Booty Call Botswana Bracelets are even funnier when you consider Harry’s obsession with them started with Chelsy. She gave him a beaded bracelet. It broke once in a club and the girls who helped him find the beads spoke to the press. Now he gives all his gfs beaded bracelets. Coincidence? Nope. LOL. I think MM’s make up is overcompensating. She got him by banging him in Botswana. Suddenly he’s going there by himself for “work.” Sure, Jan.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep.

“Now that Omid has drawn our attention to Harry’s brand new African bracelet, what are the chances we see Megs rocking a similar one to hush up the rumours? Lol” The question is WHY would Omid draw attention to Harry’s new bracelet and HOW would Omid know about it? Meg is/was his intel source. Why would MEG want Harry’s indiscretion exposed/alluded to? Her press tantrum last week makes a lot more sense now.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Oh, that’s a good point. He may have seen it in the pics, though.

Did you get that DM article about why M wears pink? One of the reasons is that it sub-consciously shows how happy she is and how IN LOVE she is with PH. Yeah, right.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I love this. So they are saying she wasn’t “in love” until she got the title?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5891783/Why-Meghan-Markle-wears-pink-royal.html

Ha! Vogue Paris let the cat out of the bag. The pink articles are a press release.

Fashion anon here again – she is working for luxury brand sponsors and working ti hard. Note her pr and its orientation. So to me that signals she knows her days are numbered and she needs a settled financial situation. She isn’t getting any big settlement from him. So October looks good to me. She knows too the media are coming. She hasn’t much time.

This might be one of the best things I’ve read this morning. (Sorry, I have a couple stressful days ahead.) 

But what you’re saying explains a lot of things. She’s still merching. I just CANNOT understand what any luxury brand sees in her though. I mean, do you know? She looks terrible in all of her recent outfits. Like that blue disaster she wore to the Spencer wedding…😳

But you’re definitely right in that she doesn’t have much time. She probably has two weeks–MAYBE three weeks max–as I see it before things get even crazier. 

The summer of fire is here, and July ain’t going to be pretty for a lot of people (and much of August too). Like, if you’re in the US and live in an area that could be hit by a hurricane, start preparing now. If you know people who are having tough emotional times, keep in contact with them and let them you know you care and that they’re not alone. 

Shit is already crazy, and I guarantee you it’s going to get even crazier. 

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I have to say that the times I’ve thrown readings for MM and PH i always get more swords and wands than i do with cups if you get me. And you would think that with them being all newly wed you would see 2oC with 10oC and so on but no all i get is pure isolation with PH,has to be, thinking of someone else. Someone from the past. Ill be shocked if this marriage last even three years with what i get

Well, I don’t do tarot, but I understand the general gist of things. It seems everyone who does tarot cards on them gets things that don’t indicate a good or lasting marriage/relationship. 

I’d be shocked if this marriage lasts a year.

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Meghan wore that dress at Wimbledon in 2016 where she was jumping seats and ended in Serena’s box one seat away from Anna Wintour. She later said in some American breakfast TV that when it started raining Anna gave her her cardigan to cover that suede dress

Ah, THANK YOU!! I wasn’t convinced it was a recent photo, but then the outfit is such a repliKate that I wasn’t sure. I mean, she actually looks healthier in that pic from two years ago than she does now, but I thought perhaps that it was taken at polo yesterday. Guess not! 

Hey ive seen the “10” reading too from multiple readers! More than two! All of them said 10 years, IMO coz no one would “like” to say 10 months, weeks or days. In one the reading, the reader finally said it could also mean the 10th month of an year, may be not this year, but next year or so. But ALL of them see them living separate lives by 2020, like not divorced but putting space between themselves. I say the distancing has already started with the Africa trip (it was 1 week! Not 1 days trip!)

Oh yeah, the distancing has definitely started. She couldn’t make it to Lesotho. I haven’t seen any articles or photos with Harry at polo from yesterday. And now she’s going to be hunkered up in the palace until her next engagement? Like, certain people (*cough* Markle stans/sugars *cough*) don’t seem to realize that this is not a great start to a royal marriage. 

I’d probably only give this 10 months max (until March 2019) if it’s to finalize the paperwork. But we’ll see…

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Thank you for your thoughtful answer to my ask (cards charts and no marriage). October sounds reasonable to me and the rumors among the pr peope I know have all been about a definite unloading by the media. What I hear is 1) that it will occur when she runs out of the money for her independent pr. 2) that it will involve scandals around not only her but her mother too. 3) that the first up may be this rumored first annulled marriage. Harry looks quite done so scandal will end it. We’ll see

You’re welcome! Normally I wouldn’t think Megs still had pr different from the palace, but she must have considering how much articles are originating with US press such as US Weekly and People. Palace would always use UK media first. 

I don’t think Harry is quite done, yet, but I think he’s getting there. Like, I doubt the “stuck with me” line he gave on Tuesday night was written into his speech. No way would Kensington Palace staff have written that. I assume he ad libbed it for some reason. They probably had a fight after he got home from Lesotho. When Harry is truly over it, we’ll know for sure because we’ll see “palace sources” in all sorts of articles about her bad behavior, even if there hasn’t been an official announcement. But that’ll be in UK press, not US Weekly & People no doubt.

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I now this sounds weird but you said in her charts there was no marriage to a prince – I did her cards and saw the same thing. So I am wondering now are we both right in some weird way? Time will tell.

Given how Harry played polo today without Megs present and Harry’s “stuck with me” comment during his speech last night, it certainly doesn’t seem like this is the strongest newlywed relationship. For me, based on the timing of these comments alone, it is not a good sign. (Not that there has ever really been a plethora of good signs surrounding this relationship and marriage.)

To me, it seems that this marriage is one ESCANDALO away from going up in flames. Megs can’t make it through a softball engagement without being on xanax or godknowswhat just to make it through an evening posing and shaking hands; Harry doesn’t have his wife around what many people thought would have been easy outings for them–namely a trip to Lesotho for Sentebale and a polo match. Fleet Street can see that there is an opening being created for them to just light the kettle on fire. It might not happen this week, but it wouldn’t surprise me if something happens by the end of July. 

I’ve seen at least two tarot card readings where the readers were given a card with “10″ regarding the length of the marriage. They took it to mean that the marriage wouldn’t last more than 10 years. I suspect that the “10″ refers more to the 10th month–October–of this year. But again, we’ll just have to see how this all shakes out. 

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VANITY FAIR: “What It Costs to Dress Like Meghan Markle: An Investigation” … Another CYA article stressing that, according to TV-fashion expert Mark Heyes, “it’s quite important for the Duchess of Sussex to be wearing couture especially at this point in her life. This is all brand new and the eyes of the world are on her. Couture will have been specifically made for her so she’s going to look a million dollars.” Yeah. OK.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

They used the same rationale for Kate’s expenses, but this is about 10 times what Kate spent. Kate is the future Queen. There is no reason why Meghan should be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars more than Kate.

DM ”The accounts DO NOT COVER May’s royal wedding but do include the five-month period after Harry and Meghan announced their engagement in November”..£1.5milions this year/+wedding costs + MM new wardrobe(Tour)+ H&M lifestyle,Next year £10 Millions

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Holy mother of mercy. So that was just for the “regional tour”? 1.5 M?????

LOLOLOLOLOL, that was BEFORE all the couture. It’s a fraction of what she has actually cost.

I have a question for you. In all this time, and it’s been 2 years and some change since they got together, there have been thousands of articles written and an interview or two given. Question: has M EVER been quoted as saying these words (or using a variation of his name): “I love Prince Harry.” The closest thing is that vomit inducing “We’re in love and we’re a couple!” I’m talking flat out: “**I** love Harry.”? For someone who loves to talk about herself, I can’t find such a sentence.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

She recently said “he’s the best husband.” I think maybe it was the Chester engagement?

Well, she doesn’t really love him all that much. The jewelry, however, she definitely loves.

Was it like that with Kate.. like was she this invisible after her marriage? Were all her appearances documented like crazy for days? It seems like with markle the press waits with baited breath for her next engagement and the days that shes not out its just endless articles on her nonsense.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Do you mean “visible” instead of “invisible”? Because Will and Kate were EVERYWHERE in 2011.

My recollection of the Cambridge’s first year is that they would disappear for weeks and then we’d get some ridiculously high-profile huge-press event like meeting the Obamas or touring the US or Kate having a solo gala. The DM has a summary of their first year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2135065/Kate-Middleton-Prince-Williams-year-marriage-looked-on.html 

There was a ton of coverage of everything they did (including mundane stuff like shopping or talking walks), and they were credited with re-invigorating the monarchy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/prince-william-kate-middleton-year-marriage-reinvigorated-fading-luster-royals-article-1.1065498

The Canada tour had so much coverage that even the reporter were complaining.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/05/royal-rivalry-prince-william-trounces-kate-in-canadian-dragon-boat-race/

I remember there was a lot of curiosity about their personal lives–honeymoon, house, shopping, Lupo, date nights, relationship with the Middletons, Kate’s shopping trips to London. Also, Kate’s fashion had a ton of coverage. The beige Reiss dress she wore to meet the Obamas, in particular, was a sensation.

Even their first anniversary dinner was a source of huge speculation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2137129/Kate-Pippa-Middleton-attend-friends-big-day-year-royal-wedding.html

The main difference I see between the way the couples are/were covered by the press is that with Will and Kate there was HUGE interest in their interactions and private life. Everyone wanted to know what the cottage looked like, how they interacted with each other, what Kate was cooking, what the dog’s name was, etc… There was also a ton of interest in Kate’s clothes, organic interest and not just People mag trying to sell beach cover-ups.

With the Slutsexes, there’s more interest in how Meghan is handling the royal protocol than anything else. The “fish out of water” aspect of it is taking over. Will and Kate didn’t have that kind of coverage, mainly because Kate had been part of “The Windsor Show” for so long that her official intro was seamless. 

Looking back the Cambridge’s first year, what strikes me is how “fresh” their appearances were–with the Obamas at the palace, in the Canadian wilderness, playing polo in LA, playing with kids. They really looked like a young couple who were having fun and putting a new spin on what it meant to be royal. In contrast, Meghan in her off-color pantyhose and 80s Diana outfits is already looking like a Madame Tussaud’s wax figure. Actually, the official was figure looks younger than Meghan right now.

From that aritcle: “There will of course be engagements in the future in which hand holding and affection is perfectly acceptable, but tonight, in the presence of the Queen, the couple showed the dignity and respect such an occasion affords.” Sure. They can explain it away like that. But just the fact that they even felt like they had to explain says a lot. People are noticing that something’s different and something’s off. You can’t go full on tentacle hands and then suddenly stop.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

This is the problem with having pda as your “signature.”

Many people have been calling her a “Stepford Wife” in the DM comments and on Gary J. Other descriptions are: sex doll, robot, wax figure, and mannequin.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

There was something very weird about the way she behaved during that engagement. Apparently, Harry got in from Africa at 6 am and he still looked more awake than she did. Trigger warning for scary Meghan picture on this link, guys. 

https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2018062749766/meghan-markle-reveals-prince-harry-6am-wakeup-call/

Those are some dead eyes:

Meghan Markle isn’t the style rebel fans hoped she’d be — and that’s okay

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Vox, of all outlets, has an apologia on Meghan’s crap style. It’s apparently supposed to signal that she belongs. I think the elements Meghan has chosen–80s stylings, color coordination to a ridiculous extent, mismatched designer flourishes–actually does the exact opposite.

Meghan Markle isn’t the style rebel fans hoped she’d be — and that’s okay

Aside of thinking that W&K genuinely love each other, and H&M not, I think it was a smart choice of W&K not to show PDA in official engagements. Being ‘neutral and professional’ in public makes it harder for the press to speculate about their relationships. But H&M are always glue to each other, so of course when they don’t, people and press 1) give excuses explaining why 2) speculate about problems in heaven. And people will start to notice when things go wrong. Not a very smart move, imo.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep.

Regarding mirroring Diana’s facial expressions – there is something there. A certain fetching look that is part natural but certainly played up. I’m sure Harry sees it and it plays to his subconscious.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I’m not sure it’s mirroring per se but Meghan has, like that article said, a very “child-like” way of presenting herself–lots of giggling and “oh gosh” expressions and stuff like that. It’s a bit off-putting on someone who is 36 yrs old.

Diana did something similar with her doe eyes and whispery voice. It was charming when she was young, but it started to look manipulative when she got older. The Panorama interview and the Diana tapes are perfect examples of it.

Submitted: Meghan’s insecurities

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yesterday i had randomly come across an online article that talked about how in some situations PDA can mean bad things for a relationship and it got me thinking about Harry and Meghan. The article talked about how even sometimes PDA posts on social media can show that the poster has insecurities about the relationship. I thought about all the clues Meghan was leaving on her instagram and even though she never flat out shared a pic of them kissing it was basically the same thing just more discreet. If she really felt secure and in love with Harry she wouldn’t need to do silly things like that. It wasn’t just her seeking attention imo, she needed the relationship validated somehow. Some quotes from the article: “Exorbitant posting of seemingly positive status may be a thin veil to obscure the real problem: insecurity.”

“The same study concluded that the more times that a partner feels insecure about his partner’s feelings, he tends to make their relationship more visible online. The goal is to compensate by making others who are online feel that everything in the relationship is going smoothly. The more “likes” and other positive comments people receive with regards to their relationships, the more they feel convinced and reassured of the relationship.”

“the more the relationship is secure, the more that the couple would want to keep it private and sacred.”

Meghan leaking constantly about how “perfect” their relationship is, is the equivalent of social media posts. When she had Jess go and fetch her that initial necklace so she could be photographed in it,making everyone believe Harry got it for her and all the times she just had to be photographed with the silly bracelet. It wasn’t for attention because everyone already knew they were together, she was doing it out feelings of insecurity in the relationship. I believe Meghan is the insecure one in the relationship and not Harry. That is why she clings to Harry and when they hold hands she always initiates it. She is extremely insecure about their relationship so she overcompensates in front of the cameras. She needs the world to believe that everything in their relationship is perfect because she knows it’s not. I wouldn’t be surprised if she knew Harry was sleeping with other women when they first starting seeing each other and that’s what made her feel the need to run to the press to reassure herself and the entire world how perfect they are together and how head over hills in love Harry is with her. 

I could be totally wrong on this and it’s just my opinion.


Thanks for sending this in! This is a perfectly valid opinion. It would also explain all of the “wonderful Meghan” and “Queen approves” press.

Yup. Harry is going to be the one to drop her. Based on everything seen tonight, he seems done with some of her previous antics of looking super loved up at royal functions tonight. Even if he’s not over her yet, I have no doubt he will be shortly. 

I agree with some of the things you said but I am not sure how you can slap/blame Harry for the Markles issue?

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

It took me a moment to figure out what you were talking about. Are you aware all of this markle daddy issue crap could’ve been avoided if they made an effort to actually see him. She could’ve at least went to go see her dad in person before leaking her own showmance. But because they are so desperate to stay woke, relevant, young, and diverse the only person they made an effort to have physical and public contact with was her mother. Who got her narrative of being a poc. Her father was extremely silent up until the engagement. So why wasn’t he shown the same helping hand? Why was he only given a phone call here and there? It’s one thing to hear over the phone dont talk to so and so, it’s another to physically be there in person expressing your concern and making things clear. And harry is somewhat at fault because if he is as controlling as her PR is making him out to be he should’ve said handle this crap in person or else it will bite you in the ass after the wedding. But that’s just my opinion.

Lainey ”Thomas Markle may have famewhore timing but that timing also works in Meghan’s favour/ That’s always a reliable conversation-redirect. And you Know who else is scheduled to attend? David Beckham.A photo of the Sussexes with David should do it.” Yep,MM flirting and giggling to David B,is going to ‘conversation-redirect’ the pr cycle LOL

anonymoushouseplantfan:

LOLOLO. Lainey’s audience thinks that Thomas has a mental health issue and they are sympathetic to him, so, of course, Lainey’s advice is to ignore Thomas. Yeah, that’s going to work.

http://www.laineygossip.com/thomas-markle-tells-tmz-he-thinks-royal-family-has-him-in-penalty-box/50232

Naturally, Lainey avoids all the real significant gossip going on about Harry & Megs. Namely, why didn’t Megs go down to Lesotho with Harry? Too busy putting together her unremarkable outfit for tonight?

That express article just made me realize what was irking me so badly about the photos of Meghan interacting with Her Majesty. Meghan behaves like The Queen is some adorable and pitiful old lady but Her Majesty is a powerful bad ass legend yet Meghan is sitting there doing her fake head tilt and smiling at her like “aw isn’t she just so adorbs”

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep. She said something at the engagement interview that sounded like that tool

Why would she need any drugs or have any nervousness at this point? She was an actress for 20 years, was some type of “speaker,” and has been on several engagements w Harry and the Queen. She is no shrinking violet, Team Meg PR constantly remind us of this. She is a pro and will waltz in and be perfect for the job. So what’s the deal? Things aren’t rosy behinds closed doors????

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Good question.

Yeah, my money is on “things aren’t rosy behind closed doors.”

She needs drugs and support because the BRF believe that she was responsible for the speeches, womens rights focus, fashion and style, the millions in the bank. There is no money and other people were responsible for all that good stuff and she is terrified of bein found out.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

She has a ton of staff now, too. I guess they aren’t as good at propping up people as her prior handlers.

Well, what’s in it for the BRF if she doesn’t succeed? It doesn’t look like she’s putting in much effort anyway. Her previous pr games were a lot easier because she wouldn’t have had to do much interaction with actual people. Royal events mean you have to interact with actual people and have to follow through with something more than a giggle or planned speech.

I just can’t get over how much has changed in the last few weeks. They’ve gone from beaming at the wedding (okay, Meghan looked a little drugged) to this. It’s like this was completely forced. They don’t look happy together. And they’re at an event with the Queen and completely phoning it in. What the heck happened? Ascot looked off but this is something else entirely. I wonder if they’re fighting. Or if they both got a talking to after Meghan’s protocol faux pas at Ascot? Thoughts?

anonymoushouseplantfan:

It’s been going steadily downhill since Xmas, imo. They were giddy during the engagement announcements and Nottingham, but then Sandringham rolled around and they’ve been looking stressed and out of it since then.

Meghan

anonymoushouseplantfan:

we put forward your personality bah Meghan is lost because she does not know who she is since more than 15 years.She has changed so many times of personality .. I start to believe Joseph Magi youtubeur but also tarologist who said he is 8 months. Meghan will sink into a big depression or madness. alcohol and pill.It runs after something that does not exist too obsessively with money can glory = illusion.


Thanks for sending this in. I’ll check him out.

This is his most recent regarding Megs & Harry (from the day before the wedding: