Maybe, but I think Oprah will direct it towards racial and political stuff and that’s dangerous. I think another problem is people not getting all the lies straight.
Thanks! They kept KP in the dark, uh? I think nixing the Markles’ wedding commentating as a “breach of decorum” is coming back to bite them. They better get used to being blindsided from now on.
I would bet real money that Doria will do (or has already done) that interview.
Can we remember that Megs wouldn’t allow KP to take Thomas “under their wing” before the wedding? That when Megs had KP release a statement it mentioned that Megs “cared for” her father not “cares for.” Past tense vs. present tense.
We should start considering whether these two press idiots–aka Harry & Megs–are already dumb enough to run to Oprah to whine publicly about her family in addition to any interview Doria has already done with Oprah.
He’s not being coached. That’s satellite delay! C’mon people. The royal family would never send someone out–who was coached–on national British tv on satellite delay!
Thomas is hitting back at his daughter, who has so clearly ditched him. Why would Megs put him on Great Morning Britain if he wasn’t going to do an interview in person??
On the left is the promo shot of the Oscar de la Renta dress. On the right, is the Duchess of Sussex wearing it. Note that in the promotional photo it is shown as a drop waist dress, but Meghan is wearing it in a blouson style. Looks like she picked a drop waist dress that is too long for her to wear as drop waist (looks like the hem might drag if she did), so she’s wearing it blouson style, which is not flattering. Makes the dress look like it is swamping her.
Just looked at the links for the dress (Moda Operandi’s site and Vogue’s slideshow of the collection) and realized that this is a 2019 Resort dress! In other words, won’t be available for purchase until the fall. How common is this for royals to do this? I’m trying to think of a similar situation. This is common with celebrities for them to borrow and wear the sample, but royals??
On the left is the promo shot of the Oscar de la Renta dress. On the right, is the Duchess of Sussex wearing it. Note that in the promotional photo it is shown as a drop waist dress, but Meghan is wearing it in a blouson style. Looks like she picked a drop waist dress that is too long for her to wear as drop waist (looks like the hem might drag if she did), so she’s wearing it blouson style, which is not flattering. Makes the dress look like it is swamping her.
LOLOL, they are furious about the inappropriate comments. Dude, anyone can tell that the dress was wrong. We haven’t seen off-the-sholder at Trooping EVER, but suddenly it turns out that it was okay all along? Pffft.
And now Sam Cohen is okaying her clothes? In what universe? It’s been clear form the very beginning (starting with the photocall facial drama) that these two do whatever they want and no one says boo to them. The clothes are being picked in Soho House with Jess. Sam gets to see it when Meghan shows up in it. She’s not vetting anything.
Hell, even Givenchy is going “we had eight fittings and this is what she wanted because she’s a strong personality and she knows what she wants.” They couldn’t get a waist tucked in and their fashion reputation was on the line. Do you really think Sam gets to veto necklines? Sam is lucky she got a backup job after quitting BP in a huff. She’s not saying shit.
I can see these two famewhores doing this after Ascot. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did. They wouldn’t want to wait a year or two for an interview with someone so well known. They’d want to do it as soon as possible so that they can maintain their hype and press interest. The thing is, once they do something like this, then it’s game on for the rest of the UK press to do what they do best.
2/2 – Do you listen to Lainey’s podcasts? Her co-podcast producer mentioned that they used to do a lot of fashion/entertainment/regional hotspot segments with local based celebrities. Apparently there is a LOT of b-roll sitting around Toronto with Rachel fake-lifestyle guruing. The producer mentioned she though Rachel was basic AF, and it was jarring to have one of their own (or someone even lower than them on the thirsty-social TO totem pole) in the BRF.
Thanks, I don’t listen to the podcast, so this is interesting.
They discuss Megs and the wedding for the first 17 and a half minutes. Sasha openly says that Megs did NOT come across as completely genuine during the wedding.
They also discuss Meg’s fashion disaster from her first outing as a royal.
I think Lainey actually even says during the podcast that she’s not sure she’s ever liked Meghan’s style.
You know, things Lainey will say talking on a podcast that she won’t put in writing for her readers…
I think it’s like other people have noted. The BRF is doing damage control with Megs because after her regional tour of the UK and the Commonwealth stuff, she isn’t able to function as a proper member of the BRF.
Megs did all of those engagements with Harry, and she still doesn’t know how to conduct herself properly as a member of the BRF.
So the pressure will be on Megs to get it right next Thursday (the 14th).
If she fucks up WHILE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE QUEEN, then Fleet Street will not forget it.
The British royal family will not forget it.
And the British public will not forget it.
The pressure is on Meghan for these engagements, not the Queen or anyone else.
That’s my take on it too. I think people are still surprised at the amount of hand-holding she is getting. I figured that was the case when they spent tons of money doing the nothing burger Foundation Forum so she could show up in a navy bathrobe and quote some Twitter hashtags.
But, yes, the schedule is exactly like the Cardiff and Edinburgh visits that she fumbled. They’re showing her how it’s done.
I’d say hand-holding, but it’s going to be spun as “an asset.”
The original expectation was that Meghan was going to effortlessly “nail” all of this and the spin during the “regional tour” was that she was forging ahead with her own “messy bun and black pants” version of royal style and this was The Best Thing EVER.
But her after-regional tour persona has been a complete RepliKate makeover with senior royals stepping in to show her how it’s done. I know the media is spinning this as “right hand woman” or whatever, but Kate was flipping pancakes during her engagement and doing solo charity galas after her wedding. She was completely independent.
So far, Meghan has (i) laughed at a Commonwealth Service performer, (ii) gone to a memorial service sleeveless, (iii) worn ROI colors in NI, (iv) shown up with messy hair and clothes, (v) shown up at her wedding stoned, (vi) sexily shashayed up and down, (vii) grabbed the other royals…etc… Not to mention the $75k engagement dress, the engagement interview snafus, and the mishandling of the family drama at the wedding.
I know we’re going to get a ton of “Meghan supporting HM” press, but I see this more as hand-holding and damage control. The royals don’t “bond” during engagements. They work. You don’t bring your grandson’s clueless bride to a work event so you can get to know her better. You bring her to show her how it’s done.
Thing is, while Meg’s father has been torn down from that perfect papa pedestal where he told her to check her own box & made coloured Barbie doll families for her and took her to set, told her her freckles were special stars or whatever the fuck etc. All of which was Meg’s own Instagram/humblebrag essay narratives.
Her mother, of whom we know only the same things as the father from the same sources – Meg’s Insta/humblebrag essays – has stayed untouchable. I think we all know why.
Though this is the “don’t give the milk away for free” woman who by Meg’s own admission started taking her for $100 facials at like 14, telling her that her face was the most important thing and she had to take care of it… Nobody dare see their relationship for what it is: fuckd up as hell. Like mother, like daughter.
But yeah. The humble black mother who single-handedly raised a child in near-poverty in a one-bed appartment while working all hours of the day… that makes for an irreproachable ally in Meg’s PR image. And I kid you not, the sugars are actually touting what I just wrote.
I mean, never mind the white dad who payed for everything, took her to work, whose fam got her the embassy job, who payed for her college and matching the rich girls at Kappa Kappa Gamma’s lifestyle. Nah, he’s fat, in debt and living in Mexico. Easily thrown under the bus. She don’t know that man. I do find it interesting that the Little Red Schoolhouse and her Catholic school teachers all remember “Mr Markle” and that he was always around helping out and how precious Meg was to him – but their only mention of Doria has been that one teacher said she was shocked when she finally got to see her once, and discovered that she was AM. I mean… the fuck dude?
Honestly this is the problem I have with her moms new narrative. Didn’t she go live with her father when she was younger? Then he still paid for education after she decided she was a star. I will give her fans credit for sticking to the narrative their saint gives them but it’s also really sad that none of them do research and read or listen to her old interviews. If they think this is what her life was like I can’t imagine what harry thinks. The white dad has to be the enemy because her narrative is that she’s black and the white man is only trying to keep her down, guess harry isn’t white. I’ve heard stories that Doria wasn’t as hands on when she was growing up which may be why her father was so present in her life.
Anyone else notice that every man that was in Rachel’s life now is being labeled as abusive, and the women are being labeled as jealous? Guess what she’s gonna label people during the divorce.
Can someone explain to me how the wife of the sixth in line to the throne outspent the wife of the second in line to the throne in a mere six months and also where is the same uproar that was levelled at the latter k thanks bye
There’s no uproar because if you dare to call her out then her sugars will label you as a racist cat lady. Also like the sugar in your notes say “she had her own money” which is funny because many of the pieces Rachel had before dating harry were from the suits set or loaners, the only ones that weren’t were the creepy stalk your mother watch addressed to herself and the thin bend rings.
By the way can someone riddle me this, if she had her own money before hand why didn’t she at least pay for her own wedding dresses?
Why did she not own a damn thing while living in Canada? Not even half the clothes on her back? No investments? No charities? Not a damn thing.
Oh by the way the only Cartier she owned was the stalk your mother watch with a note from herself to herself, oh and one of those nail rings (which we’ve only seen her in once or twice).
They just put out the stories without thinking them through. “She only met Millie three times.” Dude, how many times did she meet with Amal or even Victoria Beckham? “She healed the Windsors.” Dude, she can’t even heal her own family. “They had eight fittings.” Dude, we can see the dress doesn’t fit.
But I don’t disagree that it’s going to be a hot and fiery summer. Megs is probably going to risk the “bigger cut” though. She’s too dumb to avoid the small cuts this summer.
There’s also the other side with people who thought the Middletons were making money off the monarchy, controlling William, and leaking and posing for paps now defending Meghan left and right when she’s doing all of that X100.
I understand the Harry fans flipping. I think Harry’s 2015 press emphasized tradition and loyalty and the military and family and a lot of people became his fans because of that. It made him look like the more “royal” brother. Wiliam’s press, on the other hand, emphasized Kate, his family, his air ambulance work, and the Middletons, and it made him look comparatively less “royal.” The US tour and the friendships with tennis players and celebrity sailors also made the Cambridges feel more Hollywood, as did Kate’s emphasis on fashion and hair. As a result, the fans who were more into the traditional aspects of the BRF gravitated towards Harry and shunned the Cambridges.
But that has all flipped now. Thanks to Meghan, Harry is now the less “royal” brother and the Cambridges, who have barely changed any behaviors, are now super-traditional royals in comparison.
So I kind of understand why the Harry fans flipped. Harry no longer represents their values. I do not, however, understand why the Kate haters are now Meghan sugars. Everything they supposedly hated about Kate–untidyness, love for the press, messy family, flyaway hair, fake hair, materialism, merching, celebrity friends–is even worse with Meghan.
In KATE’s first six months as a married woman, her total spending amounted to £40’500 ($54’000). That’s the woman married to the 3rd in line to be king. And was doing engagements. This included her clothes. Okay.
In MEGHAN’s first six months, not as wife, but as a fiancée +1 day as wife to the 6th in line, she has amassed a whopping £514’330 ($687’000) in JEWELLERY ALONE. And this is only counting her “big pieces”. Throughout the six months we’ve seen her wearing new pieces stacked and mismatched adding up to thousands per time.
In response to this, and many others like it, trying to create something out of nothing:
“I am stil puzzled by this weird c of a – this is not an individual c of a but joined it is also not a conjugal c of a. Strange. The absence of chains on the supporter is very weird.”
I was too tipsy to make sense over here the first time around. No, it is not weird. It is tack af, very shallow and ego-centred.** But no. It’s not formally weird.
Her father did not get a Markle family CoA, so unlike Kate, she did not have an independent family Arms going into this union beforehand. Therefore no separate display for y’all to see. Though there will formally be a separate Sunshine & Chickenfeathers shield granted as her separate arms, it probably won’t be put out there as it’s simply way beyond its time for use. It has no function as she’s married. The impaled CoA is Meghan’s CoA now. As HRH Duchess of Slutsex. Hope I make sense here.
Further, what the Arms do have by way of formalities, is bog standard positining and referencing. Nothing strange.
Let’s have a comparative look shall we:
Will and Kate (impaled):
Hazza and Meg (impaled):
Like I said: bog standard. Nothing formally untoward.
Now what most people seem to be comparing it with is Will and Kate’s conjugal Arms:
…which was granted later and released two years after their marriage (2013). FYI.
Note that it is not Kate’s hind gorged with Will’s coronet that’s chained, it’s the Scottish unicorn. This is a merger of their separate shields supported and labelled by the Royal CoA. An entirely different matter.
And please refrain from comparing Diana’s separate CoA as she had her suo jure Spencer Arms which features a griffin argent gorged and chained to begin with. This is comparing apples & pears.
Heraldry is a complicated af business even when you do know something of it, so it’s only fair that people generally don’t understand when they really haven’t had to pay attention before. But you can rest assured that aside from the absurd silliness [sic!] of it all, this is “legit”. 🙂
**Note/rant:Though I’m sure she thought it was meant as symbolising using “her voice” for others, we all know M’s motivations by now. The bird in conjunction with the quills are a giveaway.There’s nothing that grounds or roots her with substance. It’s all flighty References to something nobody can really substantiate (part-time below-average calligrapher with only one reference ever of any work?); or banal blog writings much of which were written the guy-intern; or is she referencing the total of 2 ½ “essays” she wrote just around the time of breaking that she’s dating Harry?
Either way – there’s nothing substantial about her symbolics. Just what she’d like to project about herself. It’s a PR-coat. Much like everything else about this woman. And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.
Thank you so much for submitting this! I love it when anons are more articulate than I am. I particularly love this part:
And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.
I love the “Bathrobe of Arms,” LOLOLOLOLOL.
But I’m going to focus on this quote: "You guys are used to a staid aristo/royal.British way of emphasizing tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this.” <=== This is why I am revising Hillary Mantel’s “empty chairs” quote.
And Andrew Morton’s chatter about how the monarchy is all just costumes and crap anyway, so Meghan’s perfect for it.
She really is making it all look like a Hollywood production (the theatrical wedding, the sashay at the garden party). and, yes, there is an element of theatricality to the BRF, but, as you say, there is supposed to be a core of tradition and truth to it. What will be the effect of all of this Hollywood crapola being injected into the institution.
Right now, the conventional wisdom among the royal reporters, etc… is that this is fantastic because it “modernizes” the monarchy and expands its reach, but I don’t think that will be the case.
I think what will happen is that, as Meghan moves through the royal sphere, everything will start to look faker and faker and Hollywood-y, and it’s going to be interesting to see what effect this has. They are already dealing with a decrease in UK viewers. What’s next?
I think it’s interesting that the Cambridge response is to up the real-ness of their own family. Will is doing more “normal” stuff with friends and family, and becoming more of a diplomat. Kate is recycling like crazy and writing letters about her family life.
Thanks for sending this in, You’re right, the CoA perfectly illustrates what we are seeing, particularly in the “impaled” format, where it is contrasted with Harry’s own über-traditional set of arms.
this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife. This is how wiki describes it:
When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.
IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above. But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too. Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.
So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.
It’s been a while since my opinionated self was last teed off, but there was something in the press releases regarding the new Duchess of Sussex’s coat of arms that really annoyed me. I haven’t posted anything on the coat of arms as there is so much about it that I don’t understand or just find ridiculous. There are numerous blogs that have been posting a ton of good stuff on the topic though.
But the coat of arms in and of itself is not really what bothers me. What it does is highlight a trend that I, and I’m sure many others would have noticed over the past few months. Just look at this headline:
“Her biggest break in royal tradition yet…” What is this, a world record attempt to see how many rules or how big a rule current royals can break? I was pretty sure that I’d seen similar phrasing before, so I had a brief look to see how often this theme comes up with regards to the newly minted Sussexes.
There are literally, pages upon pages of articles listed on google about Harry and/or Meghan “Breaking Royal Tradition/Breaking Protocol”. The shot above does not even begin to illustrate how many articles there are out there with the headline being some form of “breaking tradition/protocol/rules.” And before anyone goes “it’s the media’s fault”, the BRF does have some leverage over what the media reports, especially in the UK, so I doubt that we would be inundated with so many similar articles if this wasn’t somehow linked to a PR push of sorts. (Why they push in this particular direction is beyond me.)
Rule breaking has been a recurring theme in the media for the entirety of the Sussex’s relationship. It’s almost as if they’re both stuck in a perpetual teenage phase where rule breaking is cool just because it’s rule breaking. Where is the logic in that, I do not know. But it really does seem to be just petty rule breaking for the sake of rule breaking. Because what kinds of “rules” are they breaking anyway? Here’s one right under the headline:
To name just a few of the things that the media has so nicely pointed out for us over the past few months (this last month especially), the Sussex’s “rule/tradition breaking” consists of being total rebels over things like a cake flavor, kissing for photographers on the steps of St George’s Chapel when none has ever kissed there for photographers before, having a foreigner speak at their wedding, having only very young wedding attendants, choosing their own ‘style’ of wedding music (these ones are from legit articles btw, I’m not making them up). Also, leaking on social media, not waiting until marriage to undertake tours together/issue statements on official letterheads (by the non-royal fiancee), no walking down the aisle with the bride’s father (many women do this for various reasons, but Meghan’s the progressive trendsetter y’all), not inviting family to their
wedding while inviting a ton of people they may not know very well, possibly spending taxpayer money on leisure trips together while dating, announcing that one or both are feminists on multiple occasions, etc. Real ground breaking stuff that gets touted as “modern” and “progressive”.
Now what kinds of rules did they NOT break? Here’s one example that I’ve posted about before:
The Sussexes did not see it as modern/necessary to go against rules/traditions (whether formal or just within the family) that involve bridal jewellery (the type of wedding ring for the bride and the source of materials used – the Queens vault; the bridal tiara tradition and the tiara source – again, the Queen’s vault; the Cartier wedding gifts; the Diana ring), the carriage ride (even though this is one tradition that ~30K UK citizens WANTED them to break), the multiple receptions with their dress (and suit?) changes, the acceptance of titles by the newly married couple, the receipt of a home appointed by the Crown with an upkeep that is potentially financed by the taxpayer, etc, etc. I mean, who would dare break such rules/traditions? Not the feminist, progressive modernizing-the-monarchy Sussexes of all people. SMH.
For all the rule breaking the Sussexes have done, I cannot recall them having ever broken one that “matters” in terms of making a social statement. They could’ve made really strong, positive ones about family and race issues at the wedding for example, but they fell short on that one too. They’re just happy to “break tradition” willy-nilly and be touted as “modernizing” and “progressive” as long as it doesn’t have anything (negative) to do with their bottom line or stop them from parading in front of an audience. If it costs them and not someone else, then by no means do they want to break tradition. Honestly, every time I see a title like this:
…I wonder what the hell these people are smoking. The BRF may be an ancient institution and uphold many traditions, but they are fairly modern by world standards in the way they operate. As stuffy as being a royal wife may be, these BRF women have more rights and are more involved/included/acknowledged than women in some other royal families/other parts of the world have been IMO. In all honesty, if ever there was a royal bride whose name I would consider in the same sentence as the phrase “modernizing the royal family” it would be Lalla Salma of Morocco (who sadly, the media reports as being recently divorced).
As a bit of background, prior to Lalla Salma’s wedding to the King of Morocco, Moroccan women lacked a lot of the rights that western women enjoy and were subject to the decision making of their male counterparts. The monarch had multiple wives whom he never publicly acknowledged and swapped out as he pleased. Lalla Salma, a computer science graduate, was the woman whose marriage changed the status quo. She was the first Moroccan monarch’s wife to be publicly acknowledged, champion charitable causes, accompany her husband at public events and represent him in an official capacity. She was the first woman to get a Moroccan King to promise her that she would be the only wife, and that he would not hide her away. During her tenure as consort, women within Moroccan society gained rights and privileges that were formerly restricted to men. Now that is what I call modernizing the monarchy. Modernizing a society even. That is royal leverage used well, and I say this of both Lalla Salma and her (ex?) husband. This is an example of the kind of effort a royal couple would have to put in to get the kind of acclaim the Sussexes are trying to court. But it doesn’t happen over night. It took the Moroccans years, and they’re still in the process of change.
I would also add that not all monarchies currently need modernizing IMHO. The need for modernizing stems from a cultural climate that is stuck in a system of beliefs/values/traditions that a lot of the “modern world” had already left behind. This need for “modernizing” is less pressing in the BRF where women and men are equally acknowledged and able to succeed the reigning monarch. I know it’s not as simple as that, but I honestly don’t think the British royals have it that bad. If they’re not careful, I feel they’ll modernize the UK out of a royal family altogether. There are certainly things that I would like to see the BRF change, but none of it has anything to do with cake flavors, guest-lists or proclamations of grandeur. Why “break traditions” in an attempt to modernize a monarchy in ways that really aren’t needed? (Why does it matter to the world if royals eat fruit cake or some other cake at weddings? How does the music they play/listen to better the world?…You get the picture). If they really want to “modernize the monarchy” the Sussexes had better start doing it in ways that count – and by that I mean in ways that will also benefit others and not just themselves.
My apologies for the uncomfortable length of this rant-y post. Takeaway points: I’m sick of the endless “breaking tradition/protocol/rules” and “modernizing” articles regarding the Sussexes and the BRF in general. The BRF doesn’t need modernizing and this PR push counts for squat until one of them actually does something that brings about positive change, both for the BRF and their subjects. Until then, they can lay off the PR. It’s just window dressing – horrible, tacky window dressing that does the opposite of “selling” the BRF.
Excellent post. They really aren’t breaking anything they just want everyone to believe they are trailblazers.
“[A]nything from infertility to hair loss and relationship problems…” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
So, do they not have any kind of HIPPA laws in the UK regarding acupuncture? I’m wondering how he gets around that kind of thing with an article like this…
Also, for Harry’s hair loss, he’d probably have to see an acupuncturist that either specializes in fine grain moxa treatments or microneedling. Doesn’t look like this guy does either of those two things.
‘It was an act calculated to create embarrassment. She needed money.’
‘By this time, she and Augustus had been married for seven years, even though the royal couple had spent less than a year together as man and wife, and both had been serially unfaithful.
According to documents lodged in the Royal Archives at Windsor, the Duchess chased her husband to Lisbon trying to get money out of him and managed to secure a £4,000-a-year maintenance deal.’
‘For the first Duke and Duchess of Sussex, it was a case of marry in haste and repent at leisure. For people like them there was no such thing as divorce, and they were shackled to each other for life. Money, ambition and betrayal tarnished their marriage, and it’s reassuring to think that nothing of such magnitude could ever occur to the lives of Harry and Meghan today.’
‘Her husband had to bring a legal action to stop her using the royal coat of arms, and another to stop her children, encouraged by their mother, from calling themselves ‘Prince’ and ‘Princess’.’
this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife. This is how wiki describes it:
When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.
IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above. But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too. Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.
So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.
Yeah I watched her videos on them. All of the tarot card readings have been highly interesting. The secrets and betrayal have been a common theme in the reading.
Lmao a NYT reporter was in the crowds at the wedding and her incredulity and snark are amazing. Few tidbits: half the crowd booed Harry the night before the wedding, cheered and *loved* seeing Fergie
Oh yeah, I saw it. That kind of delusion is AMAZING! She’s BFF with Serena, don’t you know? Doesn’t matter that Serena didn’t invite Megs to HER wedding. I have no idea where they come up with some of these things like her supposed friendship with Amal since 2014?! Um, where’s the proof? Even Celebitchy was like, why were George & Amal sitting in prime seats?
No mention of Megs and Amal being friends while Megs was living in Toronto, and Amal was living nowhere near Toronto!
Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.
At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street.
But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.
When you compare Meghan and Fergie, and how their timelines will play out, I think that may be a mistake.
Meghan has been on a timeline all her own for a while now, although the Duchess of Windsor would probably be a closer comparison.
Even then, tho…..
Meghan was so tacky at the beginning with the pics of bananas and British tea, people were convinced for a solid week after they dropped they were dating that couldn’t possibly happen in any reality involving actual royal people.
And then, only a week into the relationship, all her skeletons started to fall out, and Harry did that statement. Well, people accepted they were together, and that Harry was obviously serious. But I think the statement mostly made people uncomfortable. It had never happened before, called a whole slew of people racist. It was uncomfortable.
And then she pap walked in all British brands DAYS later. And then pap walked in an H and M necklace a month later.
Harry’s mistake of flying out to see her at the end of a tour, when he should have gone home. People are going to think, why not he wanted to see his girlfriend. When someone is walking around downtown London, on a sunny day, in wellies, and Barbour, you look tacky. She would have looked less tacky and touristy in socks and sandals and an usa t-shirt.
The months following are the same pattern. Most of Harry’s public mistakes, while they shouldn’t have happened, were him flying to see her when he shouldn’t have. Or inviting her on that African “working holliday” when he shouldn’t have. That just translates to a majority of the public like he really wanted to see her. I’d be mad if that was my tax money, but he just looks like a guy trying to see his then girlfriend as often as possible.
Meghan, on the other hand, kept posting “clues” on her IG, keeps pap walking, keeps forcing herself into situations where she clearly isn’t trying to fit in. Skippy’s wedding, Pippa’s wedding, and polo were all awkward as hell. And a nation that grew up with the boys, and is used to what the boys normally look like with their girlfriends, can see with their own eyes that something is off.
Couple that with her father’s family don’t have much nice to say, her mother’s family don’t have much nice to say, colleagues don’t have much nice to say, ex boyfriends and husband’ don’t have much nice to say, agents don’t have much nice to say, NO ONE has much nice to say, and all revealed at a steady stream over a year, and you have a problem.
This engagement and wedding should have been the turn around.
But she talked to Vanity Fair, and publicly did that walkabout during Invictus. I think they could have pulled off Invictus, IF Meghan hadnt done Vanity fair, revealed she’d been talking to the media for months, before obviously courting them at Invictus, and then standing around looking like a hooker in raccoon eyes with two of the cheapest people I have ever seen in Royal presence. Anderson and Mulroney. Meghan is incapable of class, or decorum, or anything resembling admiration. How do you admire raccoon eyes? And messy hair? Both Chelsy and Cressida managed to go to public outtings with Harry while looking like they hadn’t called the media first.
And then papped before that sorry excuse for an engagement announcement. A nation that sees royal engagement announcements on a regular basis knew that wasn’t how they happen. Eugenie getting it so right only a few months later highlight that. Not that I think Eugenie knows how to deal with he media, but she clearly asked for palace help with that.
And then ALL THE LEAKING. Meghan can put out as many surgery articles as she wants. The constant attention isn’t only unsustainable, it’s crazy. Brangelina didn’t survive the constant media attention, Twilight didn’t survive the constant media attention. If you oversaturate the market , the public turns you into a meme.
And Meghan’s meme is already set. Her father’s family weren’t at the wedding, her mother’s family weren’t at the wedding. The wedding was tacky, and the opposite of royal. And her father, at least according to press, was in a charity hospital in Mexico while Meghan was off playing pretty pretty princess.
That tacky fest is going to bite her in the booty later, because everyone wound up looking good except her. Her mother had to show up by herself, because Meghan didn’t even give her a plus one, and Prince Charles stepped up, and took care of the mother, and walked Meghan down the aisle. There were tons of articles praising Charles for being a gentleman everywhere.
The royal family were very welcoming, their children were part of the wedding. The showed up, and showed support.
And Harry. Dear God. The engagement interview looked like he was besotted, and all the coverage that involved her was calling out lies. Everyone remembers he said he loved her, and was looking forward to being a team. Everyone remembers she said she had no idea who he was, and hoped he was nice, with accompanying pics of her sitting outside Buckingham Palace. And several people that knew her stepping up to call her out on that.
And during the wedding, Harry cried. Apparently twice. He has become an internet meme for how a groom is supposed to look at his bride. And sat there, turned sideways in his chair, legs as close to her as possible, and clutched her hand for a solid hour. Apparently while crying. Twice.
She just held out her hand, and kept attention toward the cameras. Not showing affection back, while her father was, at least according to the mirror, in a charity hospital, and her poor all alone mother was being taken care of by the royal family.
Harry talks about how amazing she is, and how much he loves her. She talks about how she is a proud feminist, and is a social justice warrior. I don’t think she’ ever said publicly she loves him. Something the press haven’ forgotten with Charles.
Wallis Simpson was just divorced. She didn’t have social media to embaress herself in such a fashion. And she had the good sense not to call the media.
ALL of this is going to come into play later. When people admit, during the divorce, that they always knew this wasn’t going to work out, they are going to replay all this stuff from the beginning. And Meghan has done all this publicly. Pics of Harry clutching her, crying, are going to be the meme when they announce the divorce. How is she supposed to counter that? Say that sometimes, privately, he could be mean?
This is all the stuff that is gonna make her look bad. Not even including the possible first marriage, the sex tape, the naked pics, one of which happened after she met Harry, and the possible yachting, if true. Heather Mills didn’t have this wrong with her. Until the prostitution crap came out, people geniuely believed in the beginning she loved Paul.
And we haven’t gotten into when they call her in the papping and merching. Harry hasn’t been as obvious as her. And hasn’t had Jessica piblicly commenting on it. The public was furious when they thought her father did it to her, and what are they supposed to think when they find out she did it to the royal family?
She is going to be Wallis Simpson, Heather Mills, and Urdangarin all rolled into one. She has, rather impressively, done every royal scandal ever all in the span if two years.
And she is already unpopular from the beginning. No royal bride has had this many problems, not even Wallis Simpson. Whatever happened to Wallis during her wedding to Edward, no one knows. She didn’t call the media.
I highly doubt ALL of this comes out. But I bet a good bit of it does.
Harry has made plenty of mistakes during this relationship, but at the end, I think the public will consider his biggest mistake was falling for her in the first place.
These are all very good points. There’s also the fact hat the media moves A LOT faster now than it did in the eighties.
I hold on to the Fergie timeline because I like having a basis for my opinions, but you’re right, it may not take that long.
This why rolled my eyes so hard during Will & Kate’s US tour, but at least that one was official receptions and it felt like it was the celebs wanting to meet Will & Kate and not the other way around.
This is obviously the Slutsexes kowtowing to a bunch of celebs they barely know and letting them use the wedding for self-promotion and merching.
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