Lmao. That’s why when you guys ask for what her secrets about its hard to know for sure because looking for her secrets is like going in a pot and looking for one specific piece of gold, there’s so many of them it’s hard to pin down.
The difference between having a surrogate carry her baby (because Megs can’t do it) and her merching & pr extravaganza is HUGE. Like, how would they hide it? Megs wouldn’t be pregnant and people would notice. Do you really think she would be able to gain that much weight to convince people she’s pregnant? She’s tiny. If she were truly pregnant, then it would be obvious. Then what are you going to do with the surrogate? Like, no one she knows would notice that she had a baby and doesn’t have it? Like, people wouldn’t possibly talk and then go to the tabloids? This would be a HUGE firestorm in the UK.
Look at that last line there: “Surrogacy contracts aren’t enforced by UK law, even if you’ve signed a deal with your surrogate and have paid for her expenses.” It is NOT a legally enforceable contract. Surrogate is legally able to keep the kid if she wants.
NO WAY would Charles or the Queen give the okay for this to be done. What do you think would happen if the surrogate mother decided she wanted to keep the baby? SCANDAL!! And one that would get maximum visibility.
I don’t think Charles is going to shell out money for a surrogate. Harry is likely not going to pay for it since he depends on his father. The Queen isn’t going to approve of using a surrogate either.
If she really did use a surrogate, then it would pose problems with how to hide it from the press. Because legally in the UK, Megs would not be the mother of the child. It would be a huge scandal for the monarchy if discovered. Charles and the Queen both know this, which is why Charles will never shell money out for it.
I personally don’t think she can bring a baby to term. Could she conceive with the help of some artificial reproductive technology such as IVF? Possibly. Bu I don’t think she would be able to maintain it. Just my opinion. I’m sure she will try for a variety of reasons. I don’t think the surrogacy thing is going to float with the Queen though. Or Charles. The legal reasons in the UK have already been mentioned, and I’m sure that’s why the Queen particularly and Charles would not pay for it.
But yes, she’s definitely nothing without him. She has more to lose than he does if–actually when–this thing unravels. Harry will always be a royal; she will not.
Um, no. Zika didn’t become epidemic until 2015 in Brazil, and the connection to microencephaly wasn’t discovered until 2016, mainly because you needed a HUGE epidemic to get enough cases to make the connection clear. They still don’t know why it causes the microencephaly or what other effects it (or other mosquito borne diseases) may have on an unborn child.
As a former resident of a Zika zone, I know these mosquito-borne viruses are difficult to predict. They will be dormant for years and then become epidemic and develop new traits. Dengue, for example, is usually a strong flu, but I had a cousin who almost died from a hemorrhagic dengue strain in the 80s. Chinkungunya is usually just a bad cold, but my aunt is still dealing with chronic arthritic paralysis from a weirdo strain that hit my hometown in the 2000s. Zika is usually a slight fever, but I have another cousin who ended up with Guillain Barre syndrome after infection, a side-effect that is even rarer than microenchephaly.
The incidence of side-effects like microenchephaly, Guillain Barre, and chronic arthralgia is often cited as a few thousand out of a million. That sounds small, but when you are dealing with a mosquito-borne disease epidemic EVERYONE gets it and the cases pile up quickly.
Yeah, if you live there, you kind of suck it up and deal with the risk as best you can, but no one thinks of it as “first world hype.” Yes, the diseases are a way of life in the tropics, like tropical storms. But we all know there’s a risk that this will be year that It’s not just a storm, but a category 5 hurricane that destroys everything. Likewise, we all know that there’s risk that our loved one will be the unlucky someone who gets internal bleeding, paralysis, or congenital deformations, instead of the annoying cold everyone else got.
The baby rumors are now swirling. Can’t wait for the Celebitchy article about how Carole helping with George was psychotic neediness on the part of Kate, but Meghan bringing Doria over is perfectly understandable because reasons.
I know it’s PER CYCLE, my dear. What I was saying is that IVF isn’t as perfectly successful as people seem to think it is. The results do not automatically get better after repeated cycles, particularly when you’re older.
Did you see the nice letters spelling out certain words in this picture above? You know, the ones saying, “ended up with a baby after a year of IVF treatment.” Multiple cycles does NOT guarantee a higher success rate.
You are also not calculating the side effects of what IVF does to women when you spout off statements like “90% chance of getting pregnant within two years of trying.” Not true. There are no such stats saying that. Please come at with me with an actual link instead of pretending that I can’t do math.
Also, Megs turns 37 next month. IVF success is always more difficult after 35.
They’re probably not
going to adopt, so that basically leaves IVF.
I really wish people
would stop talking about IVF as if it 100% guarantees a baby. Here are some stats from the US:
So that’s basically
a 1 in 3 chance likelihood that given Meg’s age, a baby would result from IVF.
Live birth is different from a conception rate. Conception rate is usually
higher than the live birth rate. But just because you conceive through IVF does
NOT mean you will be able to carry that fetus to term.
Again, you’ll notice
that IVF does not even result in a baby more than half the time. The UK stats
are even lower than the ones from the US. Even regardless of the statistical
difference between the US and the UK, each facility will have it’s own success
rates measured in conception and live birth rates. But no facility has a 100%
live birth rate. That’s just unheard of.
ST. LOUIS — A St. Louis jury on Thursday awarded nearly $4.7 billion in total damages to 22 women and their families after they claimed asbestos in Johnson & Johnson talcum powder contributed to their ovarian cancer in the first case against the company that focused on asbestos in the powder.
The jury announced the $4.14 billion award in punitive damages shortly after awarding $550 million in compensatory damages after a six-week trial in St. Louis Circuit Court.
Johnson & Johnson called the verdict the result of an unfair process that allowed the women to sue the company in Missouri despite most of them not living in the state and said it would appeal, as it has in previous cases that found for women who sued the company.
“Johnson & Johnson remains confident that its products do not contain asbestos and do not cause ovarian cancer and intends to pursue all available appellate remedies,” spokeswoman Carol Goodrich said.
Mark Lanier, lead counsel for the plaintiffs, said in a statement that Johnson & Johnson had covered up evidence of asbestos in their products for more than 40 years.
Medical experts testified during the trial that asbestos, a known carcinogen, is intermingled with mineral talc, which is the primary ingredient in Johnson & Johnson’s Baby Powder and Shower to Shower products. The plaintiffs’ lawyers said asbestos fibers and talc particles were found in the ovarian tissues of many of the women.
“We hope this verdict will get the attention of the J&J board and that it will lead them to better inform the medical community and the public about the connection between asbestos, talc, and ovarian cancer,” Lanier said. “The company should pull talc from the market before causing further anguish, harm, and death from a terrible disease.”
During closing arguments on Wednesday, Lanier told the jurors this case was the first where jurors saw documents showing that Johnson & Johnson knew its products contained asbestos and didn’t warn consumers, The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
The company has been sued by more than 9,000 women who claim its talcum powder contributed to their ovarian cancer. Johnson & Johnson has consistently denied that its products can be linked to the cancer.
Goodrich said the verdict awarding all the women the same amount despite differences in their circumstances showed evidence in the case was overwhelmed by prejudice created when so many plaintiffs are allowed to sue the company in one lawsuit.
“Every verdict against Johnson & Johnson in this court that has gone through the appeals process has been reversed and the multiple errors present in this trial were worse than those in the prior trials which have been reversed,” she said.
Lawyers for the plaintiffs said punitive damage awards are limited by state law to five times the amount of compensatory damages awarded and defense lawyers probably would file a motion to reduce the award.
Six of the 22 plaintiffs in the latest trial have died from ovarian cancer. Five plaintiffs were from Missouri, with others from states that include Arizona, New York, North Dakota, California, Georgia, the Carolinas and Texas.
One of the plaintiffs, Gail Ingham, 73, of O’Fallon, Missouri, told The Post-Dispatch that she was diagnosed with stage-3 ovarian cancer in 1985 and underwent chemotherapy treatments, surgeries and drug treatments for a year before being declared cancer free in the early 1990s.
Ingham, who used baby powder for decades, said she joined the lawsuit because women who use baby powder “need to know what’s in there. They need to know what’s going on. Women need to know because they’re putting it on their babies.”
CAROLE’S SURROGACY MAFIA! haha. Anyway, unfortunately royal laws haven’t caught up with technology or society so I don’t believe there’s any law about whether a child born to a surrogate could be in the line of succession. I’m quite torn because royals go first and foremost off genetics so it would make me think that they could be in line but in the UK the surrogate is legally considered the mother of the child until she gives up parental rights which is essentially like the royals adopting their own child. And adopted kids can’t be in the line of succession. I don’t know about every other monarchy but I know in Norway surrogacy is illegal as it caused a scandal when MM went to India to look after twins born through surrogacy for a gay couple she’s friends with. I think it’s unfortunately a question without a clear answer. There are so many ways that monarchies haven’t caught up with modern society- there are no title systems for same sex couples for example- and this is one of them
Thanks! This explains why she was having hormonal melasma but drinking alcohol at the same time–failed IVF. I think the one who knows all about surrogates is Elton John.
It is unclear why human breast milk stands out among that of other mammals. It has five times as many types of H.M.O.s as cow’s milk, and several hundred times the quantity. Even chimp milk is impoverished compared with ours.
Her boobs don’t look any bigger. Boobs increase before the lower abdomen does with pregnancy. People seem to forget this due to the Cult of Bump Watch.
Even if she is, it won’t show yet. Not till she’s over 12 weeks or more. I didn’t even know I was pregnant till my 8th week and only because I noticed changes in my body.
@impossiblefiregarden I posted the initial photo because I think it highlights Meg’s slimness. Breasts increase more than the lower abdomen in the first trimester of pregnancy. It doesn’t look to me like she has more cleavage up top at this moment of time.
Yes, IVF is a treatment for male infertility. If you can’t get a decent sperm sample through ejaculation, then they have put the sperm & egg together in the lab because it can’t happen naturally.
I hope you can answer these questions. How can PH/MM go through fertility treatments/IVF if they are (allegedly) using drugs? –> They aren’t frequent users. I don’t have a specific knowledge about, but I presume it does, since a drug acts on your central nervous system, and this net (CND) regulates your entire body. She was yripping with and that dress last night. Because she was drunk as a cow 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Also, why do you think MM will bolt? Imo, she will never have a better life that what she has now. As the wife of the 6th (5th) in line to the throne she wouldn’t get a huge divorce settlement (would she?). –> She is a fame whore, but I doubt she will please (did you realize that her career are only tips in tiny movies and/or movies that you never heard about? And deal with the bad press and scrutiny. She fucked io twice with HM (‘something borrowed’ gate and ‘curtsey’ gate) and that is something that the journos will make sure that she learns. 😘😘😘😘
“many women who don’t get maternity leave go back to full time work within a few weeks.” Sorry but I absolutely hate this narrative. The US is an anomaly. The rest of the developed world realises that women need time off. Just because some women are forced by economic situations to go back to work doesn’t mean it’s the norm or that every woman should aim for it or that it’s ok to force someone else to return to work before they’re ready. Giving women time off is giving them credit for the huge emotional and physical stress they’ve put their body under for 9 months. Kate obviously feels well enough to go and that’s great. But if she wasn’t, that would be fine too. There will be many women who will not be able to and I’m not going to feed in to a line of thought that makes them feel less than or ashamed because of it.
It takes a woman’s body 2 years to fully recover from a pregnancy and the first few weeks is bleeding and leaky boobs, sure some women do go back to work within a few weeks but 6 weeks is the typical maternity leave in US as preschools/daycares wont take a baby under 6 weeks old. That all being said those women going back aren’t Kate, they don’t have to be in the public view and can excuse themselves if they need to pump or change their pad but she can’t do that at the wedding. She can’t just get up because she is leaking and in pain because her breast are full and heaven forbid the pads to stop the leaking get full, also she has to choose an outfit that makes them unnoticeable. She is in a position NONE of us will ever understand!
I don’t envy any woman who has to give birth. I know someone who gave birth recently, and she said if you knew what contractions are beforehand that no woman would want to get pregnant EVER.
The Financial Times was the only paper to not lead with the new baby. this was a forgone conclusion, though, so it’s not much of an achievement. The covers are cute, though.
Duke of Cambridge leaves Lindo Wing after royal baby birth – Daily Mail
Prince William brings George and Charlotte to meet royal baby brother – Daily Mail
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge present new royal baby boy – Daily Mail
Prince William and Kate drive home from hospital with third baby – Daily Mail
Prince William, Duke of Cambridge and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, pose for photographers with their newborn baby boy outside the Lindo Wing of St Mary’s Hospital on April 23, 2018 in London, England. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s third child was born this morning at 11:01, weighing 8lbs 7oz.
You’re referring to this? I had people messaging me asking if something bad was going to happen with Kate and the baby. That’s why I said, “not the baby.”
Honestly, I’m really kinda surprised that KP scheduled Harry and Meghan’s wedding so close to Kate’s due date.
I mean…there’s what? Less than 30 days til the wedding so even if she has baby Cambridge 3.0 in the next week, she’ll have to attend the wedding 3 weeks post partum. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF A MOTHER FUCKING NIGHTMARE THAT WOULD BE. boobs leaking, vag bleeding, hormones out of control, and she has to pull it all together for the gigantic even that is this wedding. I mean. I do not envy the poor woman.