Is there a reason why KP and the british press are not best buddies right now?

duchessofostergotlands:

I think the New York Times article does a good job of explaining it. It’s also important to remember that Arthur Edwards is the single most respected royal photographer in the country. He’s so well regarded by the royal family that Kate and William have singled him out twice when they’ve come out with their babies. So for him to speak to the press and say something critical of the royals is a big big deal. 

There’s always a love-hate relationship between the UK press and the royal family though. Nothing new.

Im gonna explain something: when a man is in love, they are blind but when you have a great relationship with your family you try to see everything in diferents ways not only yours. Thats the trouble and we can see it and she is using that in advantage. How can someone fake love??. Want to get married ?? do it. Wants to do hollywood wedding?? do it. At the end you are destroying not your family but the monarchy and the different between charles, di and camila era is the young people :). Bye BRF

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I don’t think he has a great relationship with his family. That’s the crux of the problem.

I think he blames his family for his own problems. He doesn’t take responsibility for his own mistakes. He truly thinks he should be as important as William and doesn’t see the difference between his own behavior and William’s.

“Pleased to welcome her to the royal family” – doesn’t convey much emotion about the task of walking her down the aisle like she’s a born again virgin. I mean your pleased when you bake a cake and it doesn’t come out the oven burnt. Is this just the BRF giving her what she wants that way when it ends, and it will, she can’t pin the blame on them for it not working out?

anonymoushouseplantfan:

It’s protection against her race card.

so you blogging is all part of the pr crisis mgt? You do understand that as the public becomes more aware of pr manipulation (and this affair focused people’s attention on that) it doesn’t work as well? THat SM and blogs undermine the pr narratives? That MM and PH are not the issue – the incompetence of the RF in this matter exposes the real reason to get rid of them all?

nycrealroyal:

A lot of people were talking about this yesterday, today, probably tomorrow and the next day… Let’s say that ‘they got the memo’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have no doubt the royal family is aware, but the problem is that the sixth in line to the throne is the one causing all this mess. Willingly.

That won’t go down well if Charles cut Harry off that will be a PR nightmare .he needs him Charles ,Camilla ,William and Kate can’t do it all. What needs to happen when HM dies get rid of the BRF and that’s the plan some of the CW countries are talking about ,but it won’t people talk talk talk about getting rid of the them but in the next 30 years it will be George, Charlotte ,Louise and Duke and Duchess of Soho kids in the spotlight

Harry is a PR nightmare right now, and due to the fact that he’ll only listen to Megs is just furthering the case that Harry will be sidelined, quite possibly permanently. Harry will be destined to lose his privileges and rank if he keeps this up. Megs is NOT going to be popular. She’s only as popular as Charles is right now and this is before her wedding. This is still BEFORE her sex tape has been released. Once the sex tape is released, people are going to have a hard time having sympathy for Harry and Megs. He might retain some sympathy due to his constant victimhood, but no one is going to feel sorry for her. She’s going to become reviled pretty quickly, and Fleet Street will revel in publishing everything and anything about ALL of her mistakes. 

Tick tock Megs. Tick fucking tock.

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There is diffently a rift between Harry and the rest of his family they only chose George and Charlotte. Meghan is snubbing family members that have snub her. Meghan is dividing the family this puts Will and Kate in ackward postion. I blame PC for this to he wants to slim line the family. The future looks really bad for the royals. I’ve lost all hope for the future of the monarchy if this is what it’s going to look like.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep.

Harry will probably be eliminated in Charles’ plan to slim down the monarchy based on how this week before the wedding is happening. I bet he’s going to cut Harry off from Charles’ money sooner than we think.

I’m not surprised that a lot of Harry’s extended family and Pippa are being snubbed. A narc will isolate from your family. She still likes Charles because of his purse strings, and likes William because he’s the most popular and heir to the pursestrings. But everyone else is expendable and she will encourage Harry to keep his distance. You don’t see Harry with Eugenie or Zara anymore for a reason, or many of his old pals. And Harry’s cosigning her nasty blinds against Pippa, Kate, and Beatrice.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep.

The Queen, Andrew and Edward are all carrying umbrellas at the garden party, but it’s super sunny and doesn’t appear to have a cloud in the sky! Is this just a style move, or does it just start to rain in London randomly?

duchessofostergotlands:

It’s for the sun. Like a parasol. Sophie doesn’t have one as her hat blocks the sun but Andrew and Edward don’t have hats and the Queen seems to have temporarily become a vampire

Heat can be tough on the elderly.

I really don’t like those Camilla/M comparisons. What C&C has span DECADES. 2-3 times longer than the average UK marriage. (Google) . PH/M’s whateverthefuckitis spans months, with most of it long distance. I’m not romantic, so all that “Fairy-tale” nonsense doesn’t impress me at all. PC waited, absorbing all the negativity and hatred that went/goes with it, and was FINALLY able to marry the woman he truly wanted. I’m happy for him.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I understand this, but he did a TON of harm to the institution. Camilla is still wildly unpopular after a massive pr drive. Ditto Charles,

And Charles’ “I love her and that’s that” intransigence is why we are here today. Because if the future king isn’t willing to put the crown’s interest above all else, why should the 6th in line to the throne do so?

Yes, it’s a love story but so was Paris and Helen and look how that ended for Troy.

Can we also mention–just to be fair–that Diana did a lot of damage to the institution? And that maybe–just maybe–holding people to unrealistic marriage standards based on a religious denomination that originated with Henry VIII as its head is completely hypocritical?

Prince Philip giving away his sister-in-law isn’t the same as Prince William giving away his potential sister-in-law. PP and Princess Margaret had a 13 year relationship and I’m sure they had respect for one another. PP was family and therefore, was “giving away” his sister. PW or PC giving away Meghan to Harry is just ODD! Do people do that? But now we get to guess the tiara and who is giving her away!! Genius. What more can happen this week?!?!

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Maybe.

Can’t they have Andrew give her away? It would be more fitting.

What do you think of london scoop?

motherofbulldogs:

nycrealroyal:

Very close to 100% accuracy. 😘

What is “London scoop”?

1) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172330793046/london-scoop

2) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172331121436/london-scoop

3) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172335224226/london-scoop

4) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172373566526/london-scoop

5) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172374612161/london-scoop

6) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/172601704956/london-scoop

7) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/173591611841/london-scoop

8) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/173681668391/london-scoop

9) https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/173810650306/ls

I think HM and PP are pretty good judges of character. They have to be. And honestly, they’ve been right. Mike T. is a cheater. We all know what Meghan is. Autumn seems lovely and she got the trusty and well beloved label. Kate really is “trusty,” isn’t she? I have a feeling we’ll see Jack get a mention like that too. I think it’s the Queen’s way of saying who really has the approval and who doesn’t.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Maybe.

royal-confessions:

“‘Kate doesn’t go enough engagements’ LOL can we talk about the duchess of Cornwall aka Camilla who hardly does any engagements and she will be queen consort very soon? I’m pretty sure Catherine does more engagements than her but people still have the nerve to criticise her. She has three young children-what’s Camilla’s excuse?“ – Submitted by Anonymous

I don’t think the BRF cares about what some people think of Meghan. Majority are indifferent. Camilla was far more disliked than Meghan and they’ve stuck with her and Charles. Charles and Camilla are still disliked and they will be the future King and Queen consort. Public opinion changes and the Queen has weathered it all.

Charles and Camilla took their time getting married. They didn’t rush. They gave the British public more than five years to get used to seeing them together before they got married. 

Megs ain’t going to be Queen, so her low public approval scores now are as high as they’re ever going to get. 

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I think the British media dislikes Meghan more than the actual people. With that being said, Camilla is by far one of the most disliked women to ever set foot in the Royal Family- far more than Meghan and they’ve welcomed her. Maybe Prince Charles was stubborn but I see nothing that says the RF cares much about what a segment of the public thinks- they honestly never have. They all seem to like her well enough.

Oh, you seem new to royal watching. I take it you’ve never seen The Queen, for example. Perhaps you should watch it so you can have a small glimpse of what goes on beyond the Meghan Markle fandom.

Charles publicly dated Camilla FOR YEARS before they became married. Charles and Camilla’s first public appearance was in 1999. The didn’t get married until 2005. That’s SIX YEARS between their first public appearance and marriage. And EIGHT YEARS after the death of Diana.

And as for whether or not the British royal family–including Charles–cares about public opinion, they do. Obviously you have not noticed that the title Camilla uses is Duchess of Cornwall instead of Princess of Wales. Camilla has every right to use the Princess of Wales title; however, she doesn’t in deference to public opinion regarding Diana.

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I think it’s a waste of time. All blind glossips, the annoying articles MeghanMania. Everyone says she has a terrible past and juicy stuff, but where is this? The press did not release anything, and the topless pics did not cause any reaction and everything just makes BRF look bad. No press wants to release anything and UK reporters love the brf being tied by a biracial commoner. What makes me furious is that if it was any other good girl who made normal mistakes in past, she would be humiliated

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Actually, this is about par for the course. Here’s the Fergie timeline:

On April 1986 Fergie married Andrew to widespread delight. She was a “breath of fresh air” and was hailed for her humor and naturalness. Little details like her romantic past and family history were swept aside. Her self-confidence during the engagement interview was amazing and she seemed to take royal life in stride. Everyone was charmed by the way they joked with each and by romantic details like Andrew desiring her engagement ring. Yes, he did. Also, they both promised to dedicate themselves to hard work. LOLOLOL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1986/07/22/fergie-bedlam-over-the-bride/e0ddc0f5-6a78-444b-be1b-19b4494acf64/?utm_term=.0a0e7ff781d1

Her looks and fashion sense were considered “relatable” and “charming.” 

And everyone expected the marriage to be a success. They were “perfectly suited” even though she had a habit of falling for charming rogues and a family history of bolting, and he was a noted party boy and philanderer.

http://people.com/archive/cover-story-fantastic-fergie-vol-25-no-14/

Even Diana was impressed. This is a quote from the Morton book.

In fact, she was supposedly stealing Di’s “fizz.” She was charming Philip and was considered one of the Firm’s “best assets.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2013/08/princess-diana-sarah-ferguson-relationship

Things only started going downhill a year later, by the Summer of 1987 when Di and Fergie started poking people with umbrellas at Ascot.

http://people.com/archive/cover-story-no-titters-you-two-this-is-serious-vol-28-no-3/

And by March 1988 she was being excoriated for tasteless jokes and bad fashion during during American tour.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-14/news/vw-627_1_fergie-loves-royal

She “promoted UK commerce” by saying that her “knickers were from Marks and Sparks” and the Brits were not amused. The “wicked charm” and “relatable fashion” was not so charming anymore.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/15/sarah-ferguson

Notice that there has been no scandal at this point, and she’s basically behaving the same way she behaved before the wedding when she cracked jokes to the photographers and sent them bottles of champagne.

Then on October 1988 she left her baby girl to go on an Australian holitour with Andrew and the tabloids lost it. Now, this is a whopping FOUR years before the toe-sucking scandal. Nothing bad has happened yet. She’s still the same person, doing the same things. It’s just that perceptions changed.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-10-26/news/8802100550_1_andy-and-fergie-randy-andy-royal

So, there you go, it takes two years. Yes, Fergie had all the same stories Meghan has now, down to the same phrases and language. It’s uncanny. 

Meghan is actually AHEAD of schedule. Fergie’s first bad stories took a year to surface. Meghan’s are coming out before the wedding has even taken place.

It’s all happening again.

Lainey is a looney. Whispering through the Queen’s birthday is supposed to be cute? Um, I’m not a pearl clutcher but her implying they were hot and heavy at the QUEEN’s birthday – frisky being the word she used – is gross. Also Harry and Meghan look either awkward or fake over the top to me but whatevs oh Lainey grosses me out. OF COURSE she is obsessed with Meghan. I bet Meghan and her pack of Looney’s are fuming she’s a second row royal when she thought she’d be the star.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Yep, they thought she was going to rule and the royals are giving Jack Brooksbank better seats and leaving her off announcements.

But they did everything they could for her–Sandringham, “regional tour,” huge wedding, forums, Commonwealth service, CHOGM. Heck, she even got a whole month to dazzle the populace without Kate being around. They did everything they could.

I admire the queen as the queen; but when it comes to management, it might be a good thing PC takes over. His Duchy Originals make a ton of money, and while he may be self-indulgent spending on himself, I think he has the right idea about the monarchy overall. QE kept throwing honors and titles at Andrew – the biggest enabler ever – and she’s en route to doing the same w/Harry. PC might be smarter.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I dunno. I’m torn with PC now that they are reorganizing everything into an umbrella.

Yup. The Queen failed miserably with Andrew.

(1) Now that PC is Head of the CW, he’s in charge of where PH/M goes and does, right? So much for the Princess Di fantasy. I see a lot of boring, tedious work. After all, that’s how one changes the world. (2) When PH/M marry, PW/DofC become their bosses, right? In terms of gender roles, PW is PH’s boss and DofC is M’s boss, right? I remember reading something like this. Was it incorrect?

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think they are a bit more independent than that.

But supposedly PC moved in to seize control of things a few months ago with a huge purge of HM’s aides.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4889462/Queen-s-aide-ousted-power-struggle.html

I think PC has been the boss since last summer.

duchessofostergotlands:

The Royal Houses (8/9): The House of Windsor

Country: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Current Head: Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
Founded: 1917
Parent House: House of Wettin

Anti-German sentiment during the First World War and a rising disdain for monarchy following the murders of the Russian Imperial Family led King George V to change the name of his royal dynasty from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to Windsor. The name was chosen to honour Windsor Castle, a favourite home of the royal family and a distinctly English landmark. The House of Windsor is currently headed by Queen Elizabeth II, who has reigned since 1952. Many of King George V’s descendants use Windsor as a last name, including the children of the Duke of Gloucester and the Duke of Kent. 

He may not care about her past but he surely has to care about public perception. This is clearly causing dissatisfaction with the monarchy – he doesn’t care about that?

nycrealroyal:

Right now, he is thinking solely about himself. Which in one way is the proper thing to do, but in other is clearly unpleasant. Maybe, I’m just opining, he thinks that if people give her a chance they will meet ‘the strong and independent woman’ that he is marrying. Oh well….still isn’t going well and probably will never happen (acceptance from the public) 😘

Portaloos for frogmore🤣🤣🤣 vanity fair

anonymoushouseplantfan:

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/04/royal-wedding-toilets

Speaking of venues. I was wondering about last night’s banquet hall. It was gorgeous and I was wondering why I hand’t seen it before. Apparently it’s the picture gallery and they’d never used it before. I loved it!

https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/987216629175111680

Having visited Buckingham Palace during the State Room tour, I imagine that they’ll use the same kind of port-a-potties/honeybuckets that they have available during tourist season for the State Room tour. Large tent, sinks with running water, and regular flush toilets. All in all, not bad and basically just like a regular bathroom.

thecrownhistorian:

I’m not really …. mature? (I know, I’m chronologically mature, but….) enough to deal with the shit in the royal fandom. I’m trying something: I’m allowing myself either one post or one reblog a day. So for today I have a story for anyone who cares to read it. A “friend” told me. (*Where’s a good *wink* gif when you need it?*)

Anyway, there’s this guy on twitter. AHEM. Person on twitter. Person hates Kate. I don’t use the word hate lightly. I mean, Person hates her like you would not believe. It’s bad. Person has called pretty much every bad thing you can call someone, and said pretty much every vile thing you can say about someone. Like, whatever Kate did to Person, I cannot even fathom that it warrants this level (and longitude) of hate. We’re talking YEARS, this has been going on. Person logs on twitter every single day since before Kate even became a member of the royal family by marriage. So that’s what? Going on seven years now? 365 times seven! Hateful tweets about Kate for 2,555 days!!!! WTF? Productive? Well, yeah, productive of something, but nothing good. One example: Kate wore some bracelet that, I guess, was a gift from Camilla, and it had Kate & Will’s new cypher on it, and Person called Kate a pretentious, social-climbing whore. 

Person really likes Meghan Markle. Like omg likes Meghan Markle to the moon. Meghan Markle can do no wrong. Meghan Markle is a “hard working, self-made woman” who is inspirational and fashionable and just perfect in every way. Meghan Markle will probably (according to Person) go on to be patron of more charities and do more for said charities than any royal in the history of, well, ever. She got a dishwashing liquid company to change its word from “women” to “people” for christ’s sake (all because a boy in her class made a joke about women in the kitchen), and if she could do that at age (whatever) what can she do at age 36? She might even get the royal family to change the His/Her in Royal Highness to a non-gender-specific pronoun!! Justin Trudeau will be so proud of her! 

I got off on such a tangent I forgot the point of my story, but since I’m limiting myself to one post per day I don’t want to waste it. So yeah, according to Person on Twitter, Kate is a social-climbing whore and Meghan Markle is the savior of humanity. I just have to wonder what Person expects Meghan to do? It is said that Meghan wants to focus on gender equality. Now that we have everyone talking about Harry’s new role in the Commonwealth,and Harry saying that Meghan will join him in this work, it seems that Meghan may want to push for absolute gender equality in all the Commonwealth. That will be a tall order. A fairly sizable portion of the Commonwealth contains countries where a majority of the people belong to a religion that does not regard women as equal to men or as having any of the same rights as men. 

One example: Prince William has just met with the President of Kenya. It seemed like a nice meeting. They smiled a lot and looked very happy to meet each other. The President came across as a very nice man. I don’t know anything about him, but did you know that in Kenya, it is illegal to be homosexual? ILLEGAL!!!!!! Meaning: Against the LAW!!! Just to BE homosexual. Forget about marriage rights. We’re talking about the right to EXIST as a human being if you are homosexual. You can even go to prison for it. It’s true. Look it up. It was that way in the UK once upon a time (hello, Oscar Wilde) but that was the 19th century. 

I guess my point is, it will be easy for Meghan to talk about gender equality in Great Britain, or the United States, or France, or anywhere in Western Europe, or Canada…. In these places, most people agree that homosexuality should not be criminalized and that men and women deserve the same rights: of freedom, of voting, of life and liberty, etc. But you know, if she’s going to talk to the Prince of Brunei (where homosexuality is punishable by death penalty) and talking about LGBT rights and gender equality….. hmm. It could stir the pot a bit and make a lot of people uncomfortable. 

I’m OK with that!!!! I WANT people to get uncomfortable about these things. I WANT change. I WANT progress. I am a liberal! 

But I’ve seen this tune before. And I just have to wonder what the Muslims Meghan met at the mosque in London have to say about gender equality. But I know, I know…. It’s not fair to question Muslims about that, because that’s Islamophobia. If a culture is ACTUALLY against gender equality or LGBT rights, you just have to accept it, right? Because if you don’t you’re being racist. 

OK I’m done. But before I go, I just want to shout out to the person who sent me a private message. I read your comforting words and I appreciate them so much. I am not sure if you wanted me to publish it, so it is sitting in my inbox for now. If you wanted me to publish it, just drop me another message and let me know either way. And thanks again!

She’s not getting the grace period because HER PR was selling her as a great charity worker she also lobbied so hard to join the royal family at Christmas and everything else. The royals is just giving her that. Her and Harry talked so much about the Commonwealth in the engagement interview it was applied she’s doesn’t need a slow introduction. So as the saying goes be careful what you wish for. But when everything goes south she can say the royal family worked her to hard

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Exactly. We’ll get tons of “she wasn’t ready” and “ they should have given her more time.” That, btw, was exactly the criticism Di leveled against them. 

Then what do you think will happen once The Queen goes?

I think the UK in general is just going through a tough time period that will last until about the end of 2020. So things will eventually get better after all the Brexit shit gets sorted out. 

By the time she passes away, all of that will have been sorted out. Things will be better than where they are today with people freaking out about Harry’s engagement to MM, and other people mad at the people who don’t like MM.