Good evening HOB, you think it’s idea of Meghan or Piers? I see this as a revenge for Piers because he knows all the truth about her

Thomas Markle’s interview is clearly the work of Piers Morgan. I literally do not understand why anyone would think Megs set this up. 

That said, Piers probably knows all the dirt from working in the media, just like the rest of Fleet Street. Piers wasn’t going to wait for anything to happen to start instigating this shit, so he got the party started. The rest of Fleet Street is waiting for an invitation, which Harry & Megs will no doubt give sooner rather than later. Because they are that dumb.

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Oh, this summer of fire is just getting started!!!

#fleetstreetalreadyhaswhattheyneed

HOUSEPLANT!!!!!!!!!!!!! What in the world? I can’t believe it. I came here after seeing the headlines on DM. I haven’t even read the article or watched the video, I had to come and talk to you & anons. ANONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the fuckety fuck? Excuse my french. I’m telling you, this relationship will implode before 2018 is through. Everything is happening at warp speed. Whaaaaaaat????????

anonymoushouseplantfan:

It’s one drama after another.

I definitely agree with that implosion before 2018.

“How does RE know he did it for money?” You answered maybe Piers told her. Piers was on a daytime tv show (after his breakfast one) telling everyone about it. KP didn’t know. Piers (and itv the channel the show was on) knew last week it was happening but chose to keep KP in the dark. Told the presenters TM got paid a “few thousand” for the exclusive interview. TM only did the interview with Piers because he “knew who he was from his time in US talk shows. Hope that helps

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Thanks! They kept KP in the dark, uh? I think nixing the Markles’ wedding commentating as a “breach of decorum” is coming back to bite them. They better get used to being blindsided from now on.

If KP still has any brain cells left they would forbid Doria from doing any interviews, including Oprah. If Doria did an interview next that, IMO would be the very final nail in the coffin. If Meghan can’t control anyone in her family, not even the father who she had openly praised on her Instagram and the Tig, then she at the very least she convince her mother to keep her mouth shut. But honestly, KP should have taken Thomas under their wing at least a month before the wedding.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I would bet real money that Doria will do (or has already done) that interview. 

Can we remember that Megs wouldn’t allow KP to take Thomas “under their wing” before the wedding? That when Megs had KP release a statement it mentioned that Megs “cared for” her father not “cares for.” Past tense vs. present tense. 

We should start considering whether these two press idiots–aka Harry & Megs–are already dumb enough to run to Oprah to whine publicly about her family in addition to any interview Doria has already done with Oprah. 

OMG the interview with the father he is being coached through out the whole video. They ( KP ) are telling him what to say i can’t believe they would stoop this low. It must be really bad behind the scenes they are desperate to make Meghan happen. This is BS I’m so done with the Royals and the conniving women he married. I hope they all rot in hell for their LIES.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

If KP staged this, they are complete morons.

He’s not being coached. That’s satellite delay! C’mon people. The royal family would never send someone out–who was coached–on national British tv on satellite delay

Thomas is hitting back at his daughter, who has so clearly ditched him. Why would Megs put him on Great Morning Britain if he wasn’t going to do an interview in person??

motherofbulldogs:

motherofbulldogs:

On the left is the promo shot of the Oscar de la Renta dress. On the right, is the Duchess of Sussex wearing it. Note that in the promotional photo it is shown as a drop waist dress, but Meghan is wearing it in a blouson style. Looks like she picked a drop waist dress that is too long for her to wear as drop waist (looks like the hem might drag if she did), so she’s wearing it blouson style, which is not flattering. Makes the dress look like it is swamping her.

Just looked at the links for the dress (Moda Operandi’s site and Vogue’s slideshow of the collection) and realized that this is a 2019 Resort dress! In other words, won’t be available for purchase until the fall. How common is this for royals to do this? I’m trying to think of a similar situation. This is common with celebrities for them to borrow and wear the sample, but royals??

Good catch @motherofbulldogs!! 

Moda Operandi literally says “Expected to ship Oct 9, 2018 to Mar 14, 2019″.

motherofbulldogs:

On the left is the promo shot of the Oscar de la Renta dress. On the right, is the Duchess of Sussex wearing it. Note that in the promotional photo it is shown as a drop waist dress, but Meghan is wearing it in a blouson style. Looks like she picked a drop waist dress that is too long for her to wear as drop waist (looks like the hem might drag if she did), so she’s wearing it blouson style, which is not flattering. Makes the dress look like it is swamping her.

Some of the press is saying she looked awful yet according to the DM she stole the show

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think they are just stirring the pot. The best rated comment has 10k likes now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5853123/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-steal-Princess-Dianas-nieces-wedding.html#comments

She’s wearing a bedsheet with a wad of toilet paper on her head.

I don’t understand how she thought she looks good when she left Nott Cott.

Lainey ”If the goddman not-really-that-off-the-shoulder pink dress really would have been a problem with Her Majesty,Samantha would have stepped in’…Samantha will be blame too,when/if MM messed up on the engagement with the Queen

anonymoushouseplantfan:

LOLOL, they are furious about the inappropriate comments. Dude, anyone can tell that the dress was wrong. We haven’t seen off-the-sholder at Trooping EVER, but suddenly it turns out that it was okay all along? Pffft.

And now Sam Cohen is okaying her clothes? In what universe? It’s been clear form the very beginning (starting with the photocall facial drama) that these two do whatever they want and no one says boo to them. The clothes are being picked in Soho House with Jess. Sam gets to see it when Meghan shows up in it. She’s not vetting anything.

Hell, even Givenchy is going “we had eight fittings and this is what she wanted because she’s a strong personality and she knows what she wants.” They couldn’t get a waist tucked in and their fashion reputation was on the line. Do you really think Sam gets to veto necklines? Sam is lucky she got a backup job after quitting BP in a huff. She’s not saying shit.

Vanity Fair: Winfrey said she would like to be Harry and Meghan’s first interview as a married couple: – this is a DONE DEAL ya’ll. Harry, oh Harry, what have you done? This interview will be a repeat of the engagement, with all the hand squeezing and all the lies. I suspect there is a tug-of-war in the palace about this. And I think Megs & Harry will win. Oh my. Just when we thought Harry couldn’t get any dumber…

anonymoushouseplantfan:

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/06/oprah-winfrey-doria-ragland-basket-of-kumquats-meghan-markle-royal-wedding

I can see these two famewhores doing this after Ascot. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did. They wouldn’t want to wait a year or two for an interview with someone so well known. They’d want to do it as soon as possible so that they can maintain their hype and press interest. The thing is, once they do something like this, then it’s game on for the rest of the UK press to do what they do best.

Meghan is trying to pull off sexy rebel – doing things right on the surface but with what she imagines are small adjustments that pull focus to her. The kind of focus that is “She’s so inappropriate!” but to her = sexy. Problem is she just looks tacky and weird, not sexy. We can see her sexing things up, but she’s not achieving actual sexy.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I can see this, but you don’t want to bring “sexy” into the royal sphere. It just looks tacky.

Also, Lainey is at it again course-correcting for Rachel. Have you noticed her constantly using the prefix “Royal” now anytime she mentions Rachel? I don’t see her doing that with any of the other actual Royals. I wonder though, how do Lainey and her Toronto based peers seriously address Rachel as HRH. I mean, this chic is basic AF for the rest of us.. imagine knowing her from back in the day? How do you reconcile that? 1/2

anonymoushouseplantfan:

2/2 – Do you listen to Lainey’s podcasts? Her co-podcast producer mentioned that they used to do a lot of fashion/entertainment/regional hotspot segments with local based celebrities. Apparently there is a LOT of b-roll sitting around Toronto with Rachel fake-lifestyle guruing. The producer mentioned she though Rachel was basic AF, and it was jarring to have one of their own (or someone even lower than them on the thirsty-social TO totem pole) in the BRF.


Thanks, I don’t listen to the podcast, so this is interesting.

Yup. It was on the “Sasha Answers” podcast after the wedding:

They discuss Megs and the wedding for the first 17 and a half minutes. Sasha openly says that Megs did NOT come across as completely genuine during the wedding. 

They also discuss Meg’s fashion disaster from her first outing as a royal.

I think Lainey actually even says during the podcast that she’s not sure she’s ever liked Meghan’s style. 

You know, things Lainey will say talking on a podcast that she won’t put in writing for her readers…

we need your thoughts calm and logical. I’m tired of hearing oh Meghan gets that because he’s biracial uh it becomes anything as a black woman it’s illogical. Apparently Harry would have begged granny for these 3 events with Meghan. When I read the comments on Daily Mail or Express everything becomes very strange to the British with no logical sense.

I think it’s like other people have noted. The BRF is doing damage control with Megs because after her regional tour of the UK and the Commonwealth stuff, she isn’t able to function as a proper member of the BRF. 

Megs did all of those engagements with Harry, and she still doesn’t know how to conduct herself properly as a member of the BRF. 

So the pressure will be on Megs to get it right next Thursday (the 14th). 

If she fucks up WHILE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE QUEEN, then Fleet Street will not forget it.

The British royal family will not forget it. 

And the British public will not forget it.

The pressure is on Meghan for these engagements, not the Queen or anyone else.

I’m going to disagree with the theory that M is going to get bored. First. I think PH will. Why? When PH/M met, M was a more “exciting” person. She was a working actress who had a “sexy” past (concept of relativity). She had Team Suits to help her dress and she had her own “team” (personal and pr) to help creative a character. The person PH fell for is disappearing before his eyes. What she’s turning into is an old, poorly “presented”, widely ridiculed, VERY BORING version of Kate.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

That is quite possible.

Why are folks bothered about her outing with the queen? Who cares. I think she mucked up badly at that garden party and the queen is showing her how it’s done. I predict she will look crazy, act crazy and hm will be one and done. Thing about the skank is she can’t keep it up for long, hence her lack of longest it’s with folks. She can’t do it. Harry sold her as you always say but there is no there there.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

That’s my take on it too. I think people are still surprised at the amount of hand-holding she is getting. I figured that was the case when they spent tons of money doing the nothing burger Foundation Forum so she could show up in a navy bathrobe and quote some Twitter hashtags.

But, yes, the schedule is exactly like the Cardiff and Edinburgh visits that she fumbled. They’re showing her how it’s done.

If HM is working harder than ever, then why is she giving MM 3 events with her in one day? Is this another hand holding thing? No way the Queen sees her as an asset.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I’d say hand-holding, but it’s going to be spun as “an asset.”

The original expectation was that Meghan was going to effortlessly “nail” all of this and the spin during the “regional tour” was that she was forging ahead with her own “messy bun and black pants” version of royal style and this was The Best Thing EVER. 

But her after-regional tour persona has been a complete RepliKate makeover with senior royals stepping in to show her how it’s done. I know the media is spinning this as “right hand woman” or whatever, but Kate was flipping pancakes during her engagement and doing solo charity galas after her wedding. She was completely independent.

So far, Meghan has (i) laughed at a Commonwealth Service performer, (ii) gone to a memorial service sleeveless, (iii) worn ROI colors in NI, (iv) shown up with messy hair and clothes, (v) shown up at her wedding stoned, (vi) sexily shashayed up and down, (vii) grabbed the other royals…etc…  Not to mention the $75k engagement dress, the engagement interview snafus, and the mishandling of the family drama at the wedding.

I know we’re going to get a ton of “Meghan supporting HM” press, but I see this more as hand-holding and damage control. The royals don’t “bond” during engagements. They work. You don’t bring your grandson’s clueless bride to a work event so you can get to know her better. You bring her to show her how it’s done.

nenny84:

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

Thing is, while Meg’s father has been torn down from that perfect papa pedestal where he told her to check her own box & made coloured Barbie doll families for her and took her to set, told her her freckles were special stars or whatever the fuck etc. All of which was Meg’s own Instagram/humblebrag essay narratives.

Her mother, of whom we know only the same things as the father from the same sources – Meg’s Insta/humblebrag essays – has stayed untouchable. I think we all know why.

Though this is the “don’t give the milk away for free” woman who by Meg’s own admission started taking her for $100 facials at like 14, telling her that her face was the most important thing and she had to take care of it… Nobody dare see their relationship for what it is: fuckd up as hell. Like mother, like daughter.

But yeah. The humble black mother who single-handedly raised a child in near-poverty in a one-bed appartment while working all hours of the day… that makes for an irreproachable ally in Meg’s PR image. And I kid you not, the sugars are actually touting what I just wrote.

I mean, never mind the white dad who payed for everything, took her to work, whose fam got her the embassy job, who payed for her college and matching the rich girls at Kappa Kappa Gamma’s lifestyle. Nah, he’s fat, in debt and living in Mexico. Easily thrown under the bus. She don’t know that man. I do find it interesting that the Little Red Schoolhouse and her Catholic school teachers all remember “Mr Markle” and that he was always around helping out and how precious Meg was to him – but their only mention of Doria has been that one teacher said she was shocked when she finally got to see her once, and discovered that she was AM. I mean… the fuck dude?

Honestly this is the problem I have with her moms new narrative. Didn’t she go live with her father when she was younger? Then he still paid for education after she decided she was a star. I will give her fans credit for sticking to the narrative their saint gives them but it’s also really sad that none of them do research and read or listen to her old interviews. If they think this is what her life was like I can’t imagine what harry thinks. The white dad has to be the enemy because her narrative is that she’s black and the white man is only trying to keep her down, guess harry isn’t white. I’ve heard stories that Doria wasn’t as hands on when she was growing up which may be why her father was so present in her life.

Anyone else notice that every man that was in Rachel’s life now is being labeled as abusive, and the women are being labeled as jealous? Guess what she’s gonna label people during the divorce.

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

princeharryconfessions:

ANYWAY

Can someone explain to me how the wife of the sixth in line to the throne outspent the wife of the second in line to the throne in a mere six months and also where is the same uproar that was levelled at the latter k thanks bye

There’s no uproar because if you dare to call her out then her sugars will label you as a racist cat lady. Also like the sugar in your notes say “she had her own money” which is funny because many of the pieces Rachel had before dating harry were from the suits set or loaners, the only ones that weren’t were the creepy stalk your mother watch addressed to herself and the thin bend rings.

By the way can someone riddle me this, if she had her own money before hand why didn’t she at least pay for her own wedding dresses?

Why did she not own a damn thing while living in Canada? Not even half the clothes on her back? No investments? No charities? Not a damn thing.

Oh by the way the only Cartier she owned was the stalk your mother watch with a note from herself to herself, oh and one of those nail rings (which we’ve only seen her in once or twice).

LOL – love how you put it re: her fake friends. It is just mind boggling to me how she keeps getting away with it. No accountability at all. Humanitarian? Right. The only thing that keeps stuff real are the comments on the articles. So people don’t buy it but they keep pumping it out. Shakes head.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

They just put out the stories without thinking them through. “She only met Millie three times.” Dude, how many times did she meet with Amal or even Victoria Beckham? “She healed the Windsors.” Dude, she can’t even heal her own family. “They had eight fittings.” Dude, we can see the dress doesn’t fit.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Even Lainey is on the band wagon saying theyll be in front just because its her 1st time at TTC 🙄 these people


Thanks for sending this in! LOL, there’s another article where she talks darkly of “betrayal” in May/June.

That was in Lainey’s daily intro on the same day. But it was more an explanation of Meghan’s “rogue relatives” talking to the press. 

But I don’t disagree that it’s going to be a hot and fiery summer. Megs is probably going to risk the “bigger cut” though. She’s too dumb to avoid the small cuts this summer.

Meghan coming into the royal family has turned the online royal watching community into the twilight zone. There are bloggers on here who 2 years ago would’ve defended Harry to their last dying breath, thinking he was going to save the monarchy (since when was it dying tho), and bit your head off if you dared say one nice thing about W&K. Those same bloggers are now complimenting W&K and using them as the golden standard of royal couples, and have denounced Harry as a leper. Twilight Zone.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

There’s also the other side with people who thought the Middletons were making money off the monarchy, controlling William, and leaking and posing for paps now defending Meghan left and right when she’s doing all of that X100.

I understand the Harry fans flipping. I think Harry’s 2015 press emphasized tradition and loyalty and the military and family and a lot of people became his fans because of that. It made him look like the more “royal” brother.  Wiliam’s press, on the other hand, emphasized Kate, his family, his air ambulance work, and the Middletons, and it made him look comparatively less “royal.” The US tour and the friendships with tennis players and celebrity sailors also made the Cambridges feel more Hollywood, as did Kate’s emphasis on fashion and hair. As a result, the fans who were more into the traditional aspects of the BRF gravitated towards Harry and shunned the Cambridges.

But that has all flipped now. Thanks to Meghan, Harry is now the less “royal” brother and the Cambridges, who have barely changed any behaviors, are now super-traditional royals in comparison. 

So I kind of understand why the Harry fans flipped. Harry no longer represents their values. I do not, however, understand why the Kate haters are now Meghan sugars. Everything they supposedly hated about Kate–untidyness, love for the press, messy family, flyaway hair, fake hair, materialism, merching, celebrity friends–is even worse with Meghan. 

anonymoushouseplantfan:

So let me get this straight:

In KATE’s first six months as a married woman, her total spending amounted to £40’500 ($54’000). That’s the woman married to the 3rd in line to be king. And was doing engagements. This included her clothes. Okay.

In MEGHAN’s first six months, not as wife, but as a fiancée +1 day as wife to the 6th in line, she has amassed a whopping £514’330 ($687’000) in JEWELLERY ALONE. And this is only counting her “big pieces”. Throughout the six months we’ve seen her wearing new pieces stacked and mismatched adding up to thousands per time.

Now… I mean…

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/1c/95/d81c9543afe02c67bc201b4e1b9168f2.jpg

But…

http://www.samlouiemft.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gold-digger-magnet.jpg

(X,X)


Thanks for sending this in! Well, IT IS smart. Can’t deny that.

Submittet: Coat of Arms Unchained (hopefully)

anonymoushouseplantfan:

In response to this, and many others like it, trying to create something out of nothing:

“I am stil puzzled by this weird c of a – this is not an individual c of a but joined it is also not a conjugal c of a. Strange. The absence of chains on the supporter is very weird.”

I was too tipsy to make sense over here the first time around. No, it is not weird. It is tack af, very shallow and ego-centred.**  But no. It’s not formally weird.

Her father did not get a Markle family CoA, so unlike Kate, she did not have an independent family Arms going into this union beforehand. Therefore no separate display for y’all to see. Though there will formally be a separate Sunshine & Chickenfeathers shield granted as her separate arms, it probably won’t be put out there as it’s simply way beyond its time for use. It has no function as she’s married. The impaled CoA is Meghan’s CoA now. As HRH Duchess of Slutsex. Hope I make sense here.

Further, what the Arms do have by way of formalities, is bog standard positining and referencing. Nothing strange.

Let’s have a comparative look shall we:

Will and Kate (impaled):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Coat_of_Arms_of_Catherine%2C_Duchess_of_Cambridge.svg/2000px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Catherine%2C_Duchess_of_Cambridge.svg.png

Hazza and Meg (impaled):

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/meghan-markle-coat-of-arms.jpg

Like I said: bog standard. Nothing formally untoward.

Now what most people seem to be comparing it with is Will and Kate’s conjugal Arms:

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/ad_116812453.jpg?w=748&h=685&crop=1

…which was granted later and released two years after their marriage (2013). FYI.

Note that it is not Kate’s hind gorged with Will’s coronet that’s chained, it’s the Scottish unicorn. This is a merger of their separate shields supported and labelled by the Royal CoA. An entirely different matter.

And please refrain from comparing Diana’s separate CoA as she had her suo jure Spencer Arms which features a griffin argent gorged and chained to begin with. This is comparing apples & pears.

Heraldry is a complicated af business even when you do know something of it, so it’s only fair that people generally don’t understand when they really haven’t had to pay attention before. But you can rest assured that aside from the absurd silliness [sic!] of it all, this is “legit”. 🙂

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**Note/rant: Though I’m sure she thought it was meant as symbolising using “her voice” for others, we all know M’s motivations by now. The bird in conjunction with the quills are a giveaway.There’s nothing that grounds or roots her with substance. It’s all flighty References to something nobody can really substantiate (part-time below-average calligrapher with only one reference ever of any work?); or banal blog writings much of which were written the guy-intern; or is she referencing the total of 2 ½ “essays” she wrote just around the time of breaking that she’s dating Harry?

Either way – there’s nothing substantial about her symbolics. Just what she’d like to project about herself. It’s a PR-coat. Much like everything else about this woman. And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got  Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.


Thank you so much for submitting this! I love it when anons are more articulate than I am. I particularly love this part:

And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got  Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.

I love the “Bathrobe of Arms,” LOLOLOLOLOL.

But I’m going to focus on this quote: "You guys are used to a staid aristo/royal.British way of emphasizing tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this.” <=== This is why I am revising Hillary Mantel’s “empty chairs” quote.

And Andrew Morton’s chatter about how the monarchy is all just costumes and crap anyway, so Meghan’s perfect for it. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5758117/Royal-biographer-says-Meghan-Markle-using-glass-slipper-smash-glass-ceiling.html

She really is making it all look like a Hollywood production (the theatrical wedding, the sashay at the garden party). and, yes, there is an element of theatricality to the BRF, but, as you say, there is supposed to be a core of tradition and truth to it. What will be the effect of all of this Hollywood crapola being injected into the institution. 

Right now, the conventional wisdom among the royal reporters, etc… is that this is fantastic because it “modernizes” the monarchy and expands its reach, but I don’t think that will be the case.

I think what will happen is that, as Meghan moves through the royal sphere, everything will start to look faker and faker and Hollywood-y, and it’s going to be interesting to see what effect this has. They are already dealing with a decrease in UK viewers. What’s next?

I think it’s interesting that the Cambridge response is to up the real-ness of their own family. Will is doing more “normal” stuff with friends and family, and becoming more of a diplomat. Kate is recycling like crazy and writing letters about her family life.

Thanks for sending this in, You’re right, the CoA perfectly illustrates what we are seeing, particularly in the “impaled” format, where it is contrasted with Harry’s own über-traditional set of arms.

Submitted:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife.  This is how wiki describes it:

When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.

IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above.  But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too.  Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.  

So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.


Interesting. Thanks for sending this in!

An unpopular opinion #5

causeiwanttoandican:

royal-circus:

It’s been a while since my opinionated self was last teed off, but there was something in the press releases regarding the new Duchess of Sussex’s coat of arms that really annoyed me. I haven’t posted anything on the coat of arms as there is so much about it that I don’t understand or just find ridiculous. There are numerous blogs that have been posting a ton of good stuff on the topic though.

But the coat of arms in and of itself is not really what bothers me. What it does is highlight a trend that I, and I’m sure many others would have noticed over the past few months. Just look at this headline:

“Her biggest break in royal tradition yet…” What is this, a world record attempt to see how many rules or how big a rule current royals can break? I was pretty sure that I’d seen similar phrasing before, so I had a brief look to see how often this theme comes up with regards to the newly minted Sussexes.

There are literally, pages upon pages of articles listed on google about Harry and/or Meghan “Breaking Royal Tradition/Breaking Protocol”. The shot above does not even begin to illustrate how many articles there are out there with the headline being some form of “breaking tradition/protocol/rules.” And before anyone goes “it’s the media’s fault”, the BRF does have some leverage over what the media reports, especially in the UK, so I doubt that we would be inundated with so many similar articles if this wasn’t somehow linked to a PR push of sorts. (Why they push in this particular direction is beyond me.)

Rule breaking has been a recurring theme in the media for the entirety of the Sussex’s relationship. It’s almost as if they’re both stuck in a perpetual teenage phase where rule breaking is cool just because it’s rule breaking. Where is the logic in that, I do not know. But it really does seem to be just petty rule breaking for the sake of rule breaking. Because what kinds of “rules” are they breaking anyway? Here’s one right under the headline:

To name just a few of the things that the media has so nicely pointed out for us over the past few months (this last month especially), the Sussex’s “rule/tradition breaking” consists of being total rebels over things like a cake flavor, kissing for photographers on the steps of St George’s Chapel when none has ever kissed there for photographers before, having a foreigner speak at their wedding, having only very young wedding attendants, choosing their own ‘style’ of wedding music (these ones are from legit articles btw, I’m not making them up). Also, leaking on social media, not waiting until marriage to undertake tours together/issue statements on official letterheads (by the non-royal fiancee), no walking down the aisle with the bride’s father (many women do this for various reasons, but Meghan’s the progressive trendsetter y’all), not inviting family to their
wedding while inviting a ton of people they may not know very well, possibly spending taxpayer money on leisure trips together while dating, announcing that one or both are feminists on multiple occasions, etc. Real ground breaking stuff that gets touted as “modern” and “progressive”.

Now what kinds of rules did they NOT break? Here’s one example that I’ve posted about before:

The Sussexes did not see it as modern/necessary to go against rules/traditions (whether formal or just within the family) that involve bridal jewellery (the type of wedding ring for the bride and the source of materials used – the Queens vault; the bridal tiara tradition and the tiara source – again, the Queen’s vault; the Cartier wedding gifts; the Diana ring), the carriage ride (even though this is one tradition that ~30K UK citizens WANTED them to break), the multiple receptions with their dress (and suit?) changes, the acceptance of titles by the newly married couple, the receipt of a home appointed by the Crown with an upkeep that is potentially financed by the taxpayer, etc, etc. I mean, who would dare break such rules/traditions? Not the feminist, progressive modernizing-the-monarchy Sussexes of all people. SMH.

For all the rule breaking the Sussexes have done, I cannot recall them having ever broken one that “matters” in terms of making a social statement. They could’ve made really strong, positive ones about family and race issues at the wedding for example, but they fell short on that one too. They’re just happy to “break tradition” willy-nilly and be touted as “modernizing” and “progressive” as long as it doesn’t have anything (negative) to do with their bottom line or stop them from parading in front of an audience. If it costs them and not someone else, then by no means do they want to break tradition. Honestly, every time I see a title like this:

…I wonder what the hell these people are smoking. The BRF may be an ancient institution and uphold many traditions, but they are fairly modern by world standards in the way they operate. As stuffy as being a royal wife may be, these BRF women have more rights and are more involved/included/acknowledged than women in some other royal families/other parts of the world have been IMO. In all honesty, if ever there was a royal bride whose name I would consider in the same sentence as the phrase “modernizing the royal family” it would be Lalla Salma of Morocco (who sadly, the media reports as being recently divorced).

As a bit of background, prior to Lalla Salma’s wedding to the King of Morocco, Moroccan women lacked a lot of the rights that western women enjoy and were subject to the decision making of their male counterparts. The monarch had multiple wives whom he never publicly acknowledged and swapped out as he pleased. Lalla Salma, a computer science graduate, was the woman whose marriage changed the status quo. She was the first Moroccan monarch’s wife to be publicly acknowledged, champion charitable causes, accompany her husband at public events and represent him in an official capacity. She was the first woman to get a Moroccan King to promise her that she would be the only wife, and that he would not hide her away. During her tenure as consort, women within Moroccan society gained rights and privileges that were formerly restricted to men. Now that is what I call modernizing the monarchy. Modernizing a society even. That is royal leverage used well, and I say this of both Lalla Salma and her (ex?) husband. This is an example of the kind of effort a royal couple would have to put in to get the kind of acclaim the Sussexes are trying to court. But it doesn’t happen over night. It took the Moroccans years, and they’re still in the process of change.

I would also add that not all monarchies currently need modernizing IMHO. The need for modernizing stems from a cultural climate that is stuck in a system of beliefs/values/traditions that a lot of the “modern world” had already left behind. This need for “modernizing” is less pressing in the BRF where women and men are equally acknowledged and able to succeed the reigning monarch. I know it’s not as simple as that, but I honestly don’t think the British royals have it that bad. If they’re not careful, I feel they’ll modernize the UK out of a royal family altogether. There are certainly things that I would like to see the BRF change, but none of it has anything to do with cake flavors, guest-lists or proclamations of grandeur. Why “break traditions” in an attempt to modernize a monarchy in ways that really aren’t needed? (Why does it matter to the world if royals eat fruit cake or some other cake at weddings? How does the music they play/listen to better the world?…You get the picture). If they really want to “modernize the monarchy” the Sussexes had better start doing it in ways that count – and by that I mean in ways that will also benefit others and not just themselves.

My apologies for the uncomfortable length of this rant-y post. Takeaway points: I’m sick of the endless “breaking tradition/protocol/rules” and “modernizing” articles regarding the Sussexes and the BRF in general. The BRF doesn’t need modernizing and this PR push counts for squat until one of them actually does something that brings about positive change, both for the BRF and their subjects. Until then, they can lay off the PR. It’s just window dressing – horrible, tacky window dressing that does the opposite of “selling” the BRF.

Excellent post. They really aren’t breaking anything they just want everyone to believe they are trailblazers.

Is it funny that William PR is everything now. And Harry thinks his soho leaking wife is so good at this they will be a power couple is so laughable. Whoever every said that meghan was the best thing that happened to will and Kate is right

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Dude, this was in The Times. THE TIMES!!!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-wedding-ross-barr-acupuncturist-to-the-stars-c526mqkg8

“[A]nything from infertility to hair loss and relationship problems…” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

So, do they not have any kind of HIPPA laws in the UK regarding acupuncture? I’m wondering how he gets around that kind of thing with an article like this… 

Also, for Harry’s hair loss, he’d probably have to see an acupuncturist that either specializes in fine grain moxa treatments or microneedling. Doesn’t look like this guy does either of those two things. 

The doomed, scandalous marriage of the ginger haired Duke of Sussex and his older bride: No, not Harry and Meghan, but the only other regal couple to

anonymoushouseplantfan:

“No, not Harry” ….. LOLOLOL

‘It was an act calculated to create embarrassment. She needed money.’

‘By this time, she and Augustus had been married for seven years, even though the royal couple had spent less than a year together as man and wife, and both had been serially unfaithful.

According to documents lodged in the Royal Archives at Windsor, the Duchess chased her husband to Lisbon trying to get money out of him and managed to secure a £4,000-a-year maintenance deal.’

‘For the first Duke and Duchess of Sussex, it was a case of marry in haste and repent at leisure. For people like them there was no such thing as divorce, and they were shackled to each other for life. Money, ambition and betrayal tarnished their marriage, and it’s reassuring to think that nothing of such magnitude could ever occur to the lives of Harry and Meghan today.’

‘Her husband had to bring a legal action to stop her using the royal coat of arms, and another to stop her children, encouraged by their mother, from calling themselves ‘Prince’ and ‘Princess’.’


Thanks for sending this in!

The doomed, scandalous marriage of the ginger haired Duke of Sussex and his older bride: No, not Harry and Meghan, but the only other regal couple to

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anonymoushouseplantfan:

this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife.  This is how wiki describes it:

When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.

IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above.  But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too.  Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.  

So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.


Interesting. Thanks for sending this in!

Many thought that he was marrying her because she was blackmailing him- well they may not have been that far off. Watch this reading (2 parts but mostly the 2nd) **pt 1 youtube(.)com/watch?v=NxEPg_V-bBs&feature=share **pt 2 youtube(.)com/watch?v=SqX5BUXZLu4&feature=share DONT FORGET TO REMOVE THE BRACKETS FOR THE LINK TO WORK

keepingupwiththebananadrama:

Yeah I watched her videos on them. All of the tarot card readings have been highly interesting. The secrets and betrayal have been a common theme in the reading.

https://youtu.be/NxEPg_V-bBs

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anonymoushouseplantfan:

Lmao a NYT reporter was in the crowds at the wedding and her incredulity and snark are amazing. Few tidbits: half the crowd booed Harry the night before the wedding, cheered and *loved* seeing Fergie

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/style/i-also-went-to-the-royal-wedding.html


Thanks for sending this in! I apologize to all the anons who told me that the crowd booed Harry for not believing them. They really did boo him. Wow.

And everyone did cheer Fergie. No wonder she looked so pleased.

And here is the gist of the fascination with Meghan:

“What kind of person would do that….” Exactly.

Ugh, sorry for the [sic!] in my ask about the sugar. It was supposed to say “Meg’s mum is best mates with Oprah”. I think you got it anyway. But yeah, it’s truly astounding. They’re like at the level of the Tin Hat Trio in some of their outlandish “facts” (every man Meg’s pumped & dumped ever has been abusive *cough*). Hey, I’m glad the other side’s got THEIR Tin Foil people too. LOL Evens things out!

Yeah, I figured it out. But yeah, I expect we’re going to have a crazy summer at this point, particularly after Ascot finishes. 

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LOL, hey HoB, have you seen that sugar’s reblog of the Joffrey/Ava seating vs Zeleb post? Apparently, Meg’s mum is bezzie mates with Doria bc they go to the same “church” (it’s like saying everyone in the CoE are best mates, because we all are part of the CoE…). I don’t think they understand that the “The Secret” church isn’t a building, it’s a weird cult/faith thing very poular in CA. Furthermore, Meg’s bezzies with Amal since 2014, bc you know: her extensive and deep reaching “philanthropy”.

Oh yeah, I saw it. That kind of delusion is AMAZING! She’s BFF with Serena, don’t you know? Doesn’t matter that Serena didn’t invite Megs to HER wedding. I have no idea where they come up with some of these things like her supposed friendship with Amal since 2014?! Um, where’s the proof? Even Celebitchy was like, why were George & Amal sitting in prime seats

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No mention of Megs and Amal being friends while Megs was living in Toronto, and Amal was living nowhere near Toronto!

Hello HOB, what do the charts say about children? I’m sorry to ask it might be something you’ve answered. Regarding the sugars that imply the negativity is from jealousy, Meghan could marry him because nobody else wanted, so… He was well loved because of his history and his charity PR, but definitely not ready to marry, he has to grow up. I really hope he does. He seems though to have some serious mental health issues not sure he will be able to work out. Do the charts say anything on that?

Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.

At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street. 

But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.