couple things so please forgive if I make this a multi parter. Notice that Naomi as an example some tarot readers make assumptions that what they read in the tabloids is true. This affects their readings and makes them IMHO unreliable. a great deal of the tabloid coverage is flat out nonsense so I am tending to disregard these readings. I know that she is merching which is clearly unacceptable for a royal yet I have never seen a single tarot reading which picks up on this. Pt 1

Pt 2 I know she has a pr firm pumping out content like crazy especially in the US media. Anyone who knows pr can recognize this and also recognize where she is going with this – a very ugly divorce. Yet the tarot readers don’t see this. You however do not seem to be making these assumptions and so you seem more reliable to me. So to annulment. Harry’s best chance for his future is the annulment and the “sources” have been saying that will be the attempt. con’t

Pt 3 so kudos to you for picking up on that. She needs the “I a martyr to their suffocating ways just like Diana” divorce so how do they get to annulment? I’d bet Harry does not want to be seen as the bad guy so he won’t initiate break up what do you think? Consistent great observations from you – love it!




1) Which tabloids are you referring to? There is a wide variation in reporting amongst various publications. You have to consider that there are US and UK tabloids. Both of which come from a variety of angles.

2) As I understand it, tarot readers read the cards based on the questions asked. If the tarot reader isn’t asking about merching, then they’re not going to get cards about merching. I have seen references in Naomi’s readings about a possible loss of money for Harry and Megs. Some people assume that could be a loss of merching money. Generally, the tarot readers are going on about the relationship between Harry and Megs, and whether or not she’s going to bail or if they’re going to break up. I don’t know that everyone is aware of the merching issue outside of close royal watchers. And even then, some royal watchers give Megs a pass anyway. 

3) Regarding the pr firms, same thing. The tarot readers are reading the cards about the relationship between Harry & Megs. They’re not asking about whether or not Megs will run out of money to pay her pr firms. Or what new thing she’ll have them issue a press release on. That’s an entirely different issue. 

4) I think it’s totally possible that Harry initiates the process, but that doesn’t mean we’ll see it as publicly as we would like. He’s a fickle, whiny bitch. Once he realizes that his new life will always revolve around having to deal with his wife’s bullshit relatives and her drama, the newlywed glow just kind of instantly fades. I mean, does Harry get press on his own anymore? Not really. And that’s got to burn his inner famewhore to no end. Megs really has nowhere to go. The divorce process in the UK means that she can’t ditch people as easily as she ditched Cory and Trevor. Fleet Street will be on her ass, and once the palace pr isn’t going to protect her, things will be much more difficult for her on the public relations front. In fact, let’s remember that the reason she’s able to flood the presses with her pr rep’s emails is because the palace is backing her due to Harry. Fleet Street isn’t going to come at her with all the resources that they could when the palace is still backing her. Her only real audience is the US, but even then she pales in comparison to regular celebrities and the daily Trumpalooza. Odds are, she would get lost in the US press if/once Trumpy gets impeached next year.

5) Annulment itself only has a certain number of legal options per the UK.

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Gosh darn it, I think Tumblr ate my ask. Or maybe you didn’t get to it yet. But anyway, I just commented on what you said about Harry’s venus being in virgo (I think that was it) like his dad’s, which indicates a failed marriage in their lifetime, and I was curious about that because many astrologers & tarot card readers said that they only see 1 marriage in Harry’s cards/life. What do you make of it? Perhaps he’ll never re-marry? Or this one will be annulled? Your thoughts?

Was it this one?


Does anything in their chart say when they would divorce/file annulment? And I agree with you on the oct. thing, a whole bunch of tarot readers have said that that’ll be a bad month for them



I just haven’t gotten around to that one yet, so I guess I’ll combine them since I just posted it above. 

But anyway…for me one of the significant things about this shit show is that Harry is in his Rahu-Ketu dasha. That is, he is running the time period of his karmic axis. Those two grahas are not actual planets/graha; they’re chaya graha (shadow planets). The results of a Rahu-Ketu or Ketu-Rahu dasha are said to be unpredictable because you’re susceptible to all sorts of karma from you current and previous lives that need to play out. One of the reasons I was convinced that Tweedledee and Tweedledum would not make it to the altar was a) due to the possible craziness of a Rahu-Ketu dasha, and b) because there is another European royal who was engaged to someone else during a Rahu-Ketu dasha, called off the wedding, ran off across the sea, met someone else, and has had a seemingly happy marriage with children ever since (not counting a planned move to Florida). 

So, Harry’s Rahu-Ketu dasha ends this October. Does that mean all of the crazy will go away? Doubtful. As long as Megs is around, Harry will be stuck with her crazy shit, which includes but is certainly not limited to her family. But it wouldn’t surprise me if a large portion of the crazy shit happens between now and then. It is–in a certain sense–his karma for this shit to happen. Doesn’t matter if he likes it or not. It is his karma–whether you see it as good, bad, or just karma. 

There is a reason why I wrote a long ass response to this question. And part of the reason for it is…have you seen the divorce requirements in the UK for England and Wales? They’re much more archaic than what exists in the US or specifically California, where Megs is from.

https://www.gov.uk/divorce

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ONE: “If you’ve been married at least a year.” These two suckers have to make it to their one-year anniversary if they want to get a divorce. 

TWO: There are five options listed on that government website on grounds for divorce. They are: 

  1. Adultery
  2. Unreasonable behavior
  3. Desertion
  4. Separated for more than 2 years
  5. Separated for at least 5 years

There is no “irreconcilable differences” as grounds for divorce like many Americans–including Megs–are used to. Not to mention I love the details listed in the elaboration.

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This probably won’t be an option for these nitwits because I don’t think this marriage is going to last that long. I love that there’s a time limit on the adultery as a rationale for divorce though. I don’t think such a thing exists in the US.

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Also not going to be a divorce option for them. Megs can’t pull the physical violence card or allude to it like it has been insinuated by her father. She has an RPO. She doesn’t spend all her time with Harry like her diehard fans like to imagine. It would be fucking tough to prove in court because the palace has all the pr and legal power. Same with verbal abuse. Drunkenness or drug-taking could apply equally to them both. Harry has more to lose with that accusation, but then there’s still the palace who would have an army of lawyers that Megs wouldn’t be able to handle. She wouldn’t have the cash to battle them in court. Just not going to happen. Just doesn’t seem like a possibility, even remotely that either of them could file for divorce with “unreasonable behavior” when you’re making kisses in front of photographers at polo games solely to change the conversation from whatever Papa Markle just said to Fleet Street.

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Also another unlikely option for these to to file for divorce. Just can’t see it happening.

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Ah, yes, legally separated for a few years and then divorced. This is the option the royals go with. Except, can you see the BRF wanting her around when Harry realizes he’s done with her and they have no children? Charles, Anne, and Andrew ALL had children when they divorced. Think of the current shit show going on now with Samantha and Papa Markle complaining about being cut off from Megs and disowned and stating that Megs could end up dead like Diana. It would be much, much worse if the Markles are talking to Fleet Street about how the BRF is mistreating Megs while a separation prior to a divorce happens. The Queen and the rest of the royal family will want to avoid THAT DISASTER. It would be way worse than what is currently going on now. Like, I can’t even imagine those pr disasters and problems. It would be Christmas for Fleet Street every single day of the week!

I think an annulment is a very likely possibility. We’re not in the end game yet, so hard to say for sure. But I think at some point in October, it will likely become obvious to those who aren’t Harry and Meghan fans what way this is going to go. 

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I think there is a cancellation she will stay to make enough appearance for her post harry life. I saw another Vedic astrologer say karma for maghan and harry until mid November …. after they will take lovers … so I bet for a wedding lightning.I’m waiting to see how the RF will manage with the madness of Meghan & Harry.

(This is an old ask
that I didn’t have time to answer a few months ago.)

I’ve only seen two
Vedic astrologers comment publicly on Harry & Meghan: Joni Patry and James
Kelleher. James just basically commented in a roundabout way that Megs is not
the next Diana because their charts aren’t at all similar. He did that in his June
newsletter.

Joni did a video on
these two suckers more than 6 months ago (January 17, 2018). If you watch the
video, the first part is just Joni reviewing the synastry between their two
charts and providing other commentary on their solo charts.

At the 22:05 mark is
where I think the most relevant information is:

If you watch the last 10 minutes of the
video–basically from 22:05 to the end–you’ll notice that Joni doesn’t give
the greatest comments about how their first year is going to go, aka “they
did not ask an astrologer…”

Her comment about Neptune opposing Meghan’s
natal Venus is Joni’s western astrology experience talking since the outer
planets (Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, etc.) are not traditionally used in Vedic
astrology. With a 3-degree orb, Neptune will probably move away from Meg’s
natal Venus around the February-to-April-2019 timeframe. 

Joni mentioned the change in Jupiter’s transit
in October, which particularly affects Harry’s chart. That’s not the only thing
happening this October. Venus goes retrograde this fall from October 5 to
November 16. Often when Venus goes retrograde, people breakup. Like, if the
Beckhams were to announce they’re divorcing during that timeframe, I wouldn’t
be surprised. Not saying that they will, but if it were to happen at that time
I wouldn’t be surprised. Another thing happening in October is that Harry
changes from Rahu-Ketu dasha to Rahu-Venus dasha. Sometimes before a dasha change–even a subperiod change–people can experience a change in life. Not always, but often. 

Venus is in Libra from September 1st to December 31st, which means it will be in the 7th house from Harry’s natal moon. So…that probably softens any blow emotionally & mentally from Jupiter moving into Scorpio, but that ends on the very last day of 2018. And then right at the beginning of 2019–literally the first week of January–Saturn transits Harry ascendant. I see that as purely a separative aspect. 

Whether or not this marriage is over in October 2018 or early 2019, I still have a hard time believing they’re going to make it a full year. It’s just so unfavorable…and you know more shit is going to come out in the next few months. Every new round that happens, I’m just not at all surprised.

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I’m thinking this whole shebang is the RF’s way of straightening Harry out. I mean, would there be questions as to why they let someone like Meghan into the fam? YES but then sympathy will chalk it out to them letting Harry follow his heart. Would they be accused of not checking out Meghan? YES but then again they were assured she was fit for the job. In the end this will all be Harry’s fault and people will be relieved he’s already far from being in line with the throne. (1)

anonymoushouseplantfan:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Post divorce, Harry will be so humiliated- the Dianna charm won’t work on either of them as well. Harry doesn’t have his mother’s squeaky clean image as a buffer and Meghan certainly doesn’t have one before she became a duchess nor is she building one right now (with all the expenses she’s accumulating and the family drama). He’ll become the laughingstock and the butt of jokes and it will be that even Charles and Camilla and the Yorks – not just the Cambridges – would benefit with this all. (2)


Very likely.

Sorry, I missed parts 3 and 4:

Many already believe he won’t have a successful post divorce life either. It’s either he finds a good and strong woman – and they won’t fall for him. Or he finds another Meghan – worse even – and the family won’t help him this time around. Not sure that William would help him either- he has this great focus on what is good for the crown and for the country. Harry has neither. They’d be cutting off the rotten branches for sure, something the RF hasn’t really done before. (3)

As for Meghan, she won’t have any post RF career, unlike Fergie who enjoys something. She may be determined, but she can only do so much if some rich gullible person spoils her. She has burned so many bridges that I highly doubt someone in the future would actually be willing to work with her publicly. I’m willing to bet that when she fails, the next time we’ll see her is as the armcandy of some embarrassing politico who is on the opposite spectrum of what she claims to be. (4)

“She effectively cornered him.” Nah. He was discussing marriage with her during that first Africa trip. She came home and told her PR person that she and H were going to “change the world.” He falls hard and fast. He wanted this. His history though is to not be a very good partner in relationships. That’s her history as well. And they both love fame more than one another. That’s where this will fail.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

This strikes me as the right take. She fed him the Brangelina dream and he swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. 

Submitted:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

OMG… Thomas Markle Sr’s sold a weekend’s worth of exclusive interview to The Sun [+on Sunday]…

Since Meghan’s not answering him, he’s texting some poor KP staff, and they’re not answering him either. And it’s been months. Yowza. Tom’s more shrewd than I gave him credit for. In one interview, he managed to make out that his Meggy’s terrified and being pressured by the Royal family, and on Sunday, it’s that he’s going to dies soon and doesn’t anybody care?! (That was for you Meg.) Oh and bonus: he ‘opened up his family album’. Oh daddy…

And he complained that the BRF should have seated Doria with them at the wedding, and not sat alone on Meghans freaking side(!!!) because she had nobody but celebrities there and looked like she was alone. In what universe but the Dingle Universe can you turn the tables around like this? Haha, it’s unbelievable.

She has officially ghosted her own father: “The phone number I had been calling Meghan on is no longer picking up.” LOL omg. Not since the day after their wedding. After which she seems to have burned her old SIM and phone and ditched daddy dearest. So, “I sent a text to my palace contact saying I would like to reach my daughter and got no reply.” Cheesus. This is so classy.

I don’t know if you guys know of the long-running soap “Emmerdale”. But the Markles are JUST like the Dingles on that show (including Meg herself, which I ID as Charity Dingle- prozzie, con artist and cold gold digger extraordinaire).

The BRF can bend over backwards, forwards and tie themselves into a pretzle – in the end, these American Dingles will find a way to blame eeeeverything on them when Meg bails in less than 2 years. They just can’t win this one. All they can do is to make sure there aren’t any ‘incriminating’ images out there to illustrate Meg’s coming narrative – so BIG SMILES EVERYBODY!


Thanks for sending this in! She has completely ghosted him. This is supposed to make his interviews worthless to the press because he has no contact with the royals and hence no news to share regarding any Meghan “trouble.” However, he has completely twisted it around so that the ghosting itself is evidence of Meghan’s troubles. 

I think they underestimated the Markles. These guys have been in Hollywood for a while. They know the tricks.

I don’t watch Emmerdale, but I’m going to look up the Dingles. It really is interesting how the BRF will always get blamed, no matter how much money or events they throw at this girl or many protocols they allow her to “break.” The old guard is clenching its jaw as she prances around in shoulder-baring outfits, turning her back on the Queen, Charles is wincing as he signs checks for French couture and worthless foreign tours, the entire family is grimacing as they pose for happy pics…and yet they are all going to get blamed when this turns to shit.

I think your last paragraph really nails it, and, yes, they are probably going to go on a huge “happy families” drive this summer, likely at Balmoral. However, it will be for naught. I think the real onslaught will come in the Fall when Meghan unveils some crap “female empowerment” umbrella program instead of the blockbuster innovative whatever that everyone is expecting.

He was playing with the ring at the reception the other day too – body language interpretation- he don’t want to be married. Obvious LOL. This is going to implode faster than anyone thought – well except for those of us who watched the charts and cards. Between now and October maybe November this is going to get very very weird and strange.

Yup. This relationship has clearly sunk after their honeymoon, regardless of wherever they did or did not go. 

It wouldn’t surprise me if some super crazy shit happened between 22 July and 4 August, but particularly between 25 and 28 July because I have a wedding to go to and will miss possible said crazy shit. Like, it wouldn’t surprise me if it would happen when I can’t enjoy it. Murphy’s law and all.

It also wouldn’t surprise me if Harry decides he’s over it in the fall and decides to go for an annulment. Divorce in the UK is much tougher to get than in the USA. There’s only FIVE reasons available when filing for divorce. 

Prince Fuck-Up has got to continue his current trend of fucking up…

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Submitted:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

this video is getting a bit of discussion on the blogs etc now.

https://www.gettyimages.pt/license/994370844

what struck me about it is she wants to leave.  And that reminded me of the story from Cory’s friend that she snubs/ignores people who are not important can’t do anything for her.  That seems to me to be what is happening here – she got her photo op these folks can’t do anything more now to advance her agenda so she wants to go.  She is bored now.  It ain’t about her.  Harry though is working so he is not running off.  I bet it bothers her that people want to talk to Harry she isn’t the star.  This may explain all the early leaving of events.

She also has no idea what to say or do that may be why she stays plastered on to Harry.  


Thanks for sending this in! She just seems so, so fake to me. 

I haven’t seen Harkle smiling that much after the wedding. They look tired and drained; mainly Harry. Meghan’s smiles look so fake and forced. While dating, they used to be more relaxed around each other and all smiles.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Honestly, the only period when they were all smiles, imo, was between the engagement and Sandringham. Then they looked briefly happy (in a pharmaceutical kind of way) during the wedding. Other than that they’ve always looked kind of stressed and forced.

you may disagree but she married him for the press and merching ops. He knows it and this thing is done. He’s just waiting for a respectable time to pass so he can divorce. And she is getting everything she can while she can. He is literally ignoring her. Needs to tolerate her presence in the parking lot so she can merch those sandals.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I agree that’s her goal, but I’m on the fence as to whether he’s figured it out or not. I have many anons saying he’s caught not, but I’m not sure.

I think he knows this is not going well, but I don’t know if it goes beyond that. I think he thinks this can still be salvaged. If there is a change in his attitude, I expect it will happen after the Balmoral vacay/August polls.

Just my opinion, of course.

still say no baby but yeah everything you see now is simply prepping for the divorce. However – if she cannot get those luxury brand endorsements she is not leaving. She will cling. She should have given this up a long time ago but girl has no game and hung on too long. She should have broken the engagement and ridden out on a wave created by “I am woman hear me roar” BS.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Nah, she needs two years to establish herself as a “royal.” That’s partly why we have to many appearances with the family. 

And this is why I say Harry is going to dump her first.

I doubt the RF or Harry think her haplessness is adorable. And given it is just a month after the tacky wedding and Harry has given up the pretense that suggests to me that he already had lost the glow before the wedding. IMHO she cornered him with the race thing and the I gave up my job for you. And the predicate resentment over that has appeared. It will get worse. The trip to IRE will drive him up the wall.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

I think he honestly expected her to be a superstar at this.

It wasn’t IMHO the engagement per se it is her whole situation that is causing her stress. An unreliable husband she manipulated into an engagement and marriage, a hostile family and public, the knowledge she is not doing well and her fear of the UK tablids (justifiable) and what may yet be revealed, no friends or family for support. Selling herself as something she clearly is not and unable to perform. Lots of stress. So she medicates.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Maybe E! is now lamesplaining the relationship with the father.

https://www.eonline.com/news/947147/the-truth-about-the-complicated-relationship-between-meghan-markle-and-her-father-thomas

Rachel/Megs got herself into this situation. She only has herself to blame. No one forced her to get engaged to Harry and marry him.

I have to say that the times I’ve thrown readings for MM and PH i always get more swords and wands than i do with cups if you get me. And you would think that with them being all newly wed you would see 2oC with 10oC and so on but no all i get is pure isolation with PH,has to be, thinking of someone else. Someone from the past. Ill be shocked if this marriage last even three years with what i get

Well, I don’t do tarot, but I understand the general gist of things. It seems everyone who does tarot cards on them gets things that don’t indicate a good or lasting marriage/relationship. 

I’d be shocked if this marriage lasts a year.

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Hey ive seen the “10” reading too from multiple readers! More than two! All of them said 10 years, IMO coz no one would “like” to say 10 months, weeks or days. In one the reading, the reader finally said it could also mean the 10th month of an year, may be not this year, but next year or so. But ALL of them see them living separate lives by 2020, like not divorced but putting space between themselves. I say the distancing has already started with the Africa trip (it was 1 week! Not 1 days trip!)

Oh yeah, the distancing has definitely started. She couldn’t make it to Lesotho. I haven’t seen any articles or photos with Harry at polo from yesterday. And now she’s going to be hunkered up in the palace until her next engagement? Like, certain people (*cough* Markle stans/sugars *cough*) don’t seem to realize that this is not a great start to a royal marriage. 

I’d probably only give this 10 months max (until March 2019) if it’s to finalize the paperwork. But we’ll see…

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I now this sounds weird but you said in her charts there was no marriage to a prince – I did her cards and saw the same thing. So I am wondering now are we both right in some weird way? Time will tell.

Given how Harry played polo today without Megs present and Harry’s “stuck with me” comment during his speech last night, it certainly doesn’t seem like this is the strongest newlywed relationship. For me, based on the timing of these comments alone, it is not a good sign. (Not that there has ever really been a plethora of good signs surrounding this relationship and marriage.)

To me, it seems that this marriage is one ESCANDALO away from going up in flames. Megs can’t make it through a softball engagement without being on xanax or godknowswhat just to make it through an evening posing and shaking hands; Harry doesn’t have his wife around what many people thought would have been easy outings for them–namely a trip to Lesotho for Sentebale and a polo match. Fleet Street can see that there is an opening being created for them to just light the kettle on fire. It might not happen this week, but it wouldn’t surprise me if something happens by the end of July. 

I’ve seen at least two tarot card readings where the readers were given a card with “10″ regarding the length of the marriage. They took it to mean that the marriage wouldn’t last more than 10 years. I suspect that the “10″ refers more to the 10th month–October–of this year. But again, we’ll just have to see how this all shakes out. 

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Why would she need any drugs or have any nervousness at this point? She was an actress for 20 years, was some type of “speaker,” and has been on several engagements w Harry and the Queen. She is no shrinking violet, Team Meg PR constantly remind us of this. She is a pro and will waltz in and be perfect for the job. So what’s the deal? Things aren’t rosy behinds closed doors????

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Good question.

Yeah, my money is on “things aren’t rosy behind closed doors.”

I just can’t get over how much has changed in the last few weeks. They’ve gone from beaming at the wedding (okay, Meghan looked a little drugged) to this. It’s like this was completely forced. They don’t look happy together. And they’re at an event with the Queen and completely phoning it in. What the heck happened? Ascot looked off but this is something else entirely. I wonder if they’re fighting. Or if they both got a talking to after Meghan’s protocol faux pas at Ascot? Thoughts?

anonymoushouseplantfan:

It’s been going steadily downhill since Xmas, imo. They were giddy during the engagement announcements and Nottingham, but then Sandringham rolled around and they’ve been looking stressed and out of it since then.

Prince Dumbass doesn’t seem to realise saying “you’re stuck with me” in reference to commonwealth nations, many of which have strong republican movements, is dumb. It’s like, “oh yeah? Challenge accepted. Bye.” LOL. Also, he’s showing his insecurities again. Self-deprivation is what people do when they fell unworthy. He’s got massive issues about being the spare. Another thing: if you had to pretend to love a brat like PH you’d be drugged af too. Serves MM right. No sympathy from me.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Such a weird way to word it.

So, did he need to emphasize that MM is stuck with him after she wouldn’t go to Africa this past weekend?

If I were Prince Charles, I wouldn’t let PH flee to Africa from time-to-time. I would make his ass stay and “attend” to his wife. Every day. If it were “necessary” for him to go to Africa, I would make sure M went with him. ONE MONTH. ONE MONTH after marrying her, he has buyer’s remorse? Tough shit. If they divorce or separate before 2 years, he should have his trusts broken in order to repay the Gov’t for the costs of that ridiculous wedding.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Ha! They would never repay the govt.

MM’s PR baffles me! Like why?? You got the ring, your husband is smitten by you, you have money, title etc. Just sit back and enjoy your life of luxury. I mean what more do you want? What more there is to want? When your husband and in laws are standing with you (at least they are giving her a chance and are being more cordial than required) why all this PR for public? I dont get it. Is there something that Im missing about the life of rich and famous? She doesn’t need to be in news constantly.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

Isn’t that interesting? One would expect her to take some time to just enjoy life with the man she supposedly loves, particularly since they spent very little time together during the “whirlwind courtship.” But instead they take breaks and go their own ways and focus on photo ops. 

That video of them presenting the trophies is very telling. It’s quite obvious that PH is giving her Duchess Lessons. Several times, their facades slip and it seems to me that their loved-up, smitten, besotted period is close to over, if it isn’t already. PH expected a glamorous “starlet’ to hit the ground running. M expected the glamorous parts of Princess Di’s life. Neither got what s/he expected. Reality has finally hit them both. Hard. I still think M’s ugly pics started it with PH.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

He is constantly telling her what to do.

Oh, but reality is going to start hitting back harder in the coming weeks. 

I’m going to disagree with the theory that M is going to get bored. First. I think PH will. Why? When PH/M met, M was a more “exciting” person. She was a working actress who had a “sexy” past (concept of relativity). She had Team Suits to help her dress and she had her own “team” (personal and pr) to help creative a character. The person PH fell for is disappearing before his eyes. What she’s turning into is an old, poorly “presented”, widely ridiculed, VERY BORING version of Kate.

anonymoushouseplantfan:

That is quite possible.

Hello HOB, what do the charts say about children? I’m sorry to ask it might be something you’ve answered. Regarding the sugars that imply the negativity is from jealousy, Meghan could marry him because nobody else wanted, so… He was well loved because of his history and his charity PR, but definitely not ready to marry, he has to grow up. I really hope he does. He seems though to have some serious mental health issues not sure he will be able to work out. Do the charts say anything on that?

Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.

At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street. 

But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.

Submitted:

anonymoushouseplantfan:

When you compare Meghan and Fergie, and how their timelines will play out, I think that may be a mistake. 

Meghan has been on a timeline all her own for a while now, although the Duchess of Windsor would probably be a closer comparison. 

Even then, tho…..

Meghan was so tacky at the beginning with the pics of bananas and British tea, people were convinced for a solid week after they dropped they were dating that couldn’t possibly happen in any reality involving actual royal people. 

And then, only a week into the relationship, all her skeletons started to fall out, and Harry did that statement. Well, people accepted they were together, and that Harry was obviously serious. But I think the statement mostly made people uncomfortable. It had never happened before, called a whole slew of people racist. It was uncomfortable. 

And then she pap walked in all British brands DAYS later. And then pap walked in an H and M necklace a month later. 

Harry’s mistake of flying out to see her at the end of a tour, when he should have gone home. People are going to think, why not he wanted to see his girlfriend. When someone is walking around downtown London, on a sunny day, in wellies, and Barbour, you look tacky. She would have looked less tacky and touristy in socks and sandals and an usa t-shirt.

The months following are the same pattern. Most of Harry’s public mistakes, while they shouldn’t have happened, were him flying to see her when he shouldn’t have. Or inviting her on that African “working holliday” when he shouldn’t have. That just translates to a majority of the public like he really wanted to see her. I’d be mad if that was my tax money, but he just looks like a guy trying to see his then girlfriend as often as possible. 

Meghan, on the other hand, kept posting “clues” on her IG,  keeps pap walking, keeps forcing herself into situations where she clearly isn’t trying to fit in. Skippy’s wedding, Pippa’s wedding, and polo were all awkward as hell. And a nation that grew up with the boys, and is used to what the boys normally look like with their girlfriends, can see with their own eyes that something is off. 

Couple that with her father’s family don’t have much nice to say, her mother’s family don’t have much nice to say, colleagues don’t have much nice to say, ex boyfriends and husband’ don’t have much nice to say, agents don’t have much nice to say, NO ONE has much nice to say, and all revealed at a steady stream over a year, and you have a problem. 

This engagement and wedding should have been the turn around. 

But she talked to Vanity Fair, and publicly did that walkabout during Invictus. I think they could have pulled off Invictus, IF Meghan hadnt done Vanity fair, revealed she’d been talking to the media for months, before obviously courting them at Invictus, and then standing around looking like a hooker in raccoon eyes with two of the cheapest people I have ever seen in Royal presence. Anderson and Mulroney. Meghan is incapable of class, or decorum, or anything resembling admiration. How do you admire raccoon eyes? And messy hair? Both Chelsy and Cressida managed to go to public outtings with Harry while looking like they hadn’t called the media first. 

And then papped before that sorry excuse for an engagement announcement. A nation that sees royal engagement announcements on a regular basis knew that wasn’t how they happen. Eugenie getting it so right only a few months later highlight that. Not that I think Eugenie knows how to deal with he media, but she clearly asked for palace help with that. 

And then ALL THE LEAKING. Meghan can put out as many surgery articles as she wants. The constant attention isn’t only unsustainable, it’s crazy. Brangelina didn’t survive the constant media attention, Twilight didn’t survive the constant media attention. If you oversaturate the market , the public turns you into a meme. 

And Meghan’s meme is already set. Her father’s family weren’t at the wedding, her mother’s family weren’t at the wedding. The wedding was tacky, and the opposite of royal. And her father, at least according to press, was in a charity hospital in Mexico while Meghan was off playing pretty pretty princess. 

That tacky fest is going to bite her in the booty later, because everyone wound up looking good except her. Her mother had to show up by herself, because Meghan didn’t even give her a plus one, and Prince Charles stepped up, and took care of the mother, and walked Meghan down the aisle. There were tons of articles praising Charles for being a gentleman everywhere. 

The royal family were very welcoming, their children were part of the wedding. The showed up, and showed support. 

And Harry. Dear God. The engagement interview looked like he was besotted, and all the coverage that involved her was calling out lies. Everyone remembers he said he loved her, and was looking forward to being a team. Everyone remembers she said she had no idea who he was, and hoped he was nice, with accompanying pics of her sitting outside Buckingham Palace. And several people that knew her stepping up to call her out on that. 

And during the wedding, Harry cried. Apparently twice. He has become an internet meme for how a groom is supposed to look at his bride. And sat there, turned sideways in his chair, legs as close to her as possible, and clutched her hand for  a solid hour. Apparently while crying. Twice. 

She just held out her hand, and kept attention toward the cameras. Not showing affection back, while her father was, at least according to the mirror, in a charity hospital, and her poor all alone mother was being taken care of by the royal family. 

Harry talks about how amazing she is, and how much he loves her. She talks about how she is a proud feminist, and is a social justice warrior. I don’t think she’ ever said publicly she loves him. Something the press haven’ forgotten with Charles. 

Wallis Simpson was just divorced. She didn’t have social media to embaress herself in such a fashion. And she had the good sense not to call the media. 

ALL of this is going to come into play later. When people admit, during the divorce, that they always knew this wasn’t going to work out, they are going to replay all this stuff from the beginning. And Meghan has done all this publicly. Pics of Harry clutching her, crying, are going to be the meme when they announce the divorce. How is she supposed to counter that? Say that sometimes, privately, he could be mean? 

This is all the stuff that is gonna make her look bad. Not even including the possible first marriage, the sex tape, the naked pics, one of which happened after she met Harry, and the possible yachting, if true. Heather Mills didn’t have this wrong with her. Until the prostitution crap came out, people geniuely believed in the beginning she loved Paul. 

And we haven’t gotten into when they call her in the papping and merching. Harry hasn’t been as obvious as her. And hasn’t had Jessica piblicly commenting on it. The public was furious when they thought her father did it to her, and what are they supposed to think when they find out she did it to the royal family?

She is going to be Wallis Simpson, Heather Mills, and Urdangarin all rolled into one. She has, rather impressively, done every royal scandal ever all in the span if two years. 

And she is already unpopular from the beginning. No royal bride has had this many problems, not even Wallis Simpson. Whatever happened to Wallis during her wedding to Edward, no one knows. She didn’t call the media. 

I highly doubt ALL of this comes out. But I bet a good bit of it does. 

Harry has made plenty of mistakes during this relationship, but at the end, I think the public will consider his biggest mistake was falling for her in the first place. 


These are all very good points. There’s also the fact hat the media moves A LOT faster now than it did in the eighties.

I hold on to the Fergie timeline because I like having a basis for my opinions, but you’re right, it may not take that long.

Meghan got a pass to wed in the CoE because TECHNICALLY she wasn’t part of the CoE and had previously not been wed within the CoE. (She wasn’t part of any Christian church, not even baptised, but that’s another story.) It’s one of those “devil’s in the details” loopholes. Harry, on the other hand, is a member of the CoE. He married in the CoE. When he divorces, he can’t remarry in a CoE church like the first time. That’s the rule the CoE goes by. Any new wife-to-be’s status doesn’t matter a.t.p.

Oh, yeah, that’s right. I remember mentioning that. (Feels so long ago.)

But yeah, if he wants to remarry in the CoE again, then he would have to get an annulment, not a divorce.

this annulment thing. It’s from the people who create false theories.When harry and meghan were dating they said no engagement, when they got engaged they said no wedding, when they got married they saying it will be annulled. Let’s wait for Harry or Meghan to file for divorce.

Well, the people you’re talking about have just straight up lied to people about an agreement, fake engagement, blackmail, etc. 

I think the possibility of an annulment exists if this marriage implodes over the summer. We’ll just have to wait and see what kind of fireworks go off after the 4th of July.

I don’t think they will annul the marriage though. I think they will divorce. Prince Harry will pull a Kim Kardashian and file for divorce after 72 days of marriage. It will be similar to the Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries scandal.

Maybe. It might just depend how quickly this thing unravels. We’ll know for sure by the beginning of September I think. If Harry ever wanted to have a wedding in a church to someone else, then he would have to get an annulment or else he’d probably have to settle for a civil ceremony with a blessing afterwards like his dad.

Maybe they’ll just follow the Canadian rule (as opposed to the state of Ontario rule) to declare that Megs was in a civil partnership with Cory to get the marriage annulled. Depends on how badly PH will want to get rid of her. Personally I don’t think the will, I think this will end in a nasty expensive divorce.

The problem I have with that is that Megs stopped being with Cory in 2016. Wedding happened in 2018. That’s a year and a half separation at a minimum. It seems really hard to justify that there’s an overlap causing a conflict with this marriage. 

Does it mean that Harry was fucking Megs while she was still with Cory? I have no doubt that is the case. But Cory and Megs went their separate ways before an engagement happened.

You also missed an important part about annulment, if the person you are married to hids information about a previous marriage than you are eligible for annulment.

People keep saying that, but that option doesn’t appear on the forms. 

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-annul-marriage/apply-for-an-annulment

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/688088/d8n-eng.pdf

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“Hiding information about a previous marriage” isn’t on the annulment petition. I’ve looked at it. Hiding a marriage would only be relevant if someone was still married to that person while getting married to someone else, aka polygamous marriage. The voidable options are directly posted above.

I can’t even find that on the supporting notes for the petition paperwork, and you can take a look at them here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/688091/d8n-notes-eng.pdf

Can you do a reading for annulment between Harry and Meghan.

Let’s establish a few things about annulment first. 

One, some people have said that Meghan was in a civil union/common-law marriage with Cory when she started up with Harry. I think the basis for this is that a lot of articles state that if you live together for a year in Canada while in a relationship that means you’re considered a common-law marriage/civil union. However, when I did some internet research, I found that provinces can regulate it. Toronto is in Ontario, and Ontario states that it must be a continuous relationship while living together for three years. Cory and Megs were only together for two years, so obviously that doesn’t qualify.

Two, what I found when researching annulments in the UK, is that there are 1) not legally valid marriages (”void”), and 2) defective (”voidable”) marriages.

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So, since there is no reason the marriage between Harry and Megs is not legally valid, if Harry wants to annul this marriage, then he would have to go for a reason that the marriage is defective.

  • No one is going to believe that this marriage wasn’t consummated when they couldn’t keep their hands off each other during the wedding. 
  • Megs definitely wasn’t pregnant by another man. 
  • It’s going to be damn hard to prove that Harry didn’t properly consent to the marriage when they gave Megs a tour of the UK with all those engagements. 
  • But “the other person had a sexually transmitted disease when you got married” option I think could be a winner! All they would need to do is have Meg’s sex tape released with lots references to her yachting past (”for a good time call X”) and there are LOTS of people who would be a) shocked and b) might even feel slightly sorry for Harry. (Although I think listing a STD as a reason for an annulment is kind of dumb personally.)

Three, looking for basis of annulments in the Church of England I didn’t come up with as much as I thought I could. I was basically able to find this

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So basically it sounds to me that if Harry can get this marriage legally annulled, then the Church of England will be able to annul it on religious grounds.

I don’t have as much time today to go into things as well as I’d like, but I do think the possibility of annulment exists here. I agree with AHPF’s mom that this relationship will be over after the honeymoon. As other people have noted, Harry wants a wife and kids and actually seems to have some love for Megs. Megs seems to love her new status and all the moolah and jewels coming her way. I do think the fact that Megs didn’t say “I love you” in the engagement interview is going to come back and bite her in the ass this summer.

I don’t expect the UK press to start taking serious potshots at these two until after Ascot. It could totally happen before that, but I think that most of the press will let them have a honeymoon period first. Also, the Trooping of the Colour is not too far away. Prince Louis will have his christening soon. Zara will probably have her baby (babies?) soon. There are several positive, happy events happening within the next 5-6 weeks, so no need to publish Meg’s past when you have readers willingly clicking on positive articles on the royal family. 

But here are some dates of interest that we can take a look and start to gauge things this year:

  • The last full week of June (24-30): Look to see if Harry is treating Megs differently, and if Harry is dishing out cutting remarks about his wife. Maybe he’ll just be mad at Megs draining out his bank accounts by buying shit all the time.
  • 22 July to 04 August: IF there is going to be an annulment, then we will have to see signs of it here I think. 
  • 10 to 23 October: IF it is going to be an annulment, then I would expect it to be completed maybe around this time frame. (No one is going to go for an annulment years down the road.) If it’s going to be a divorce, then perhaps papers will be filed around this time frame. 
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Once the “honeymoon phase” of this wedding is over with and they get into married life, I’d be surprised if she can spew her feminist agenda too loudly within the Firm. It’s too political, and she will have to learn she joined the wrong Firm if she intends to behave that way. This is perhaps where their marital discord will be one of the areas of a potential future divorce. Harry still has to behave himself and respect the Monarch. Blood is thicker than water.

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Five Reasons I Think Harry and Meghan Markle Will Not Last – My Site

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Certain subjects get me into trouble. This one will. I do not write this with any personal animus toward the couple. She seems lovely. My heart goes out to him. However, I will always be honest with my readers about how I feel. If someone takes his valuable time to read my articles, the least I can do is to be authentic. Hence, I will tell you why I would be VERY surprised if this relationship lasted. I do not think it will last very long even. If it does last for a more lengthy period, I think it will start to go bad in a short time,whether or not we see it. If I am wrong, we shall see because this article was written on May 19, 2018.

Five Reasons I Think Harry and Meghan Markle Will Not Last
1.This is a very strong Chiron relationship. I have written many articles on Chiron relationships. I don’t know if I “discovered” how they functioned. I simply did thousands of charts and found that Chiron relationships function in a certain manner.People get very close very rapidly. One feels as if one has found one’s soul mate and/or one’s life long best friend .However, this extreme closeness may make one person feel too vulnerable. That person seems to “bolt”. The other tries to get him back to no avail. I, also, watched my own life and have seen many, many Chiron relationships follow the same pattern. People who have a strong Chiron relationship may stay married, but there will be a great, great deal of pain. In these current societal times, people do not stay married, usually, in cases in which they are very unhappy. In years past, people did.

2. This is a VERY strong Nessus relationship. Nessus makes for passion that is “off the charts”. I have seen this from doing charts. If I get a request for a reading from a person who seems like she will die if she does not “get” the other person, I know it is a Nessus relationship. Nessus relationships do feel as if one will die if the other person does not want them or if the other person rejects them. I have many articles on this and have experienced it myself(always the best teacher).

Nessus relationships begin with the passion of nuclear war and end with the cold act of poisoning. I exaggerate with the mention of poison, but I have seen people destroy the cars of the other person with golf clubs. I hope you get the picture. I think that every person should experience one Nessus relationship in their lifetime because the passion is so intense. However, it should not be marriage. (The Nessus asteroid did not show up on this chart because it was not added to this particular chart. I saw it on another chart)

3. This is a strong Uranus relationship. Uranus makes for attraction such as you feel the “earth moves under your feet.” This level of powerful instant attraction can make people feel as if they have found “the one”. However, Uranus, itself, does not tell us anything about the stability of the relationship. Without other factors for soul compatibility, the Uranus relationships will not have the bonding needed for a long term marriage. Aspects which give soul are Moon aspects, such as Moon trine Moon. Soul keeps people together. Attraction always fades if that is all one has.

4. His Venus makes only one aspect to her chart. It is an aspect for a tidal wave kind of “love” but it does not have the lasting soul needed for a long term marriage. It is more of an aspect of strong falling in love, such that you feel you must possess each other. However,the planet Venus represents that which one finds beautiful. Harry’s Venus does not aspect anything else in Meghan’s chart, such as a personal planet like Venus, Mercury, Mars, the Sun or the Moon. Hence, I think their tastes will be quite different and this will become a problem. An example of tastes would be music. One person likes rap and the other opera. Another example would be how one “carries oneself”. One person may be reserved. The other may be demonstrative. This would be fine if Venus made aspects to personal planets. Without this, the people may not be attractive to each other—long term.

5. She has a very sensitive part in her chart and he does not support it. He, likely, will not understand it. It is her Moon/Saturn conjunction. This shows a very hard relationship with her mother. Also, Meghan may feel a great deal of self doubt and self criticism. Harry’s Jupiter squares this and his Moon quincunx it. Also, there is a Jupiter square Jupiter here. Jupiter square Jupiter would result in something like one person who loves to spend money and the other who is frugal. One person may be a dare devil and the other may be a homebody. It is an inability to understand how each “goes forth” in the world, if that makes sense. I digressed a bit from the aforementioned aspect—-Harry’s Jupiter squares Meghans Moon/Saturn conjunction. His Moon quincunx it. Harry will likely not understand the deep pain Meghan has and this does not bode well.

I could go onto to ten aspects easily but I am stopping the article here due to lazines

Five Reasons I Think Harry and Meghan Markle Will Not Last – My Site