Given that she’s of advanced maternal age and that she does not look like she has the healthiest figure, I’d be shocked if she could actually conceive and carry a baby to term. She looks like she’s allergic to food. Her dressing in baggy or loose fitting clothing like she did today will probably fool some people except those of us who notice she’s extremely slim.
I’ve seen the same with other tarot readers based on the handful I’ve seen. I’ve yet to see one saying that they’ll have a happy marriage with lots of kids. Which is actually what Harry wants. Except he’s not going to get it with her.
He does not look happy in any of these pics, and, honestly, neither does she. I’ve heard the expression “the smile doesn’t reach the eyes” before, but I’ve never seen a clearer example than this.
Prince Harry on the arms of his mother the Princess of Wales as he waves to the crowd at the balcony of Buckingham Palace for Trooping the Colour | 1987
Thomas Markle’s interview is clearly the work of Piers Morgan. I literally do not understand why anyone would think Megs set this up.
That said, Piers probably knows all the dirt from working in the media, just like the rest of Fleet Street. Piers wasn’t going to wait for anything to happen to start instigating this shit, so he got the party started. The rest of Fleet Street is waiting for an invitation, which Harry & Megs will no doubt give sooner rather than later. Because they are that dumb.
Oh, this summer of fire is just getting started!!!
I would bet real money that Doria will do (or has already done) that interview.
Can we remember that Megs wouldn’t allow KP to take Thomas “under their wing” before the wedding? That when Megs had KP release a statement it mentioned that Megs “cared for” her father not “cares for.” Past tense vs. present tense.
We should start considering whether these two press idiots–aka Harry & Megs–are already dumb enough to run to Oprah to whine publicly about her family in addition to any interview Doria has already done with Oprah.
I can see these two famewhores doing this after Ascot. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did. They wouldn’t want to wait a year or two for an interview with someone so well known. They’d want to do it as soon as possible so that they can maintain their hype and press interest. The thing is, once they do something like this, then it’s game on for the rest of the UK press to do what they do best.
There’s also the other side with people who thought the Middletons were making money off the monarchy, controlling William, and leaking and posing for paps now defending Meghan left and right when she’s doing all of that X100.
I understand the Harry fans flipping. I think Harry’s 2015 press emphasized tradition and loyalty and the military and family and a lot of people became his fans because of that. It made him look like the more “royal” brother. Wiliam’s press, on the other hand, emphasized Kate, his family, his air ambulance work, and the Middletons, and it made him look comparatively less “royal.” The US tour and the friendships with tennis players and celebrity sailors also made the Cambridges feel more Hollywood, as did Kate’s emphasis on fashion and hair. As a result, the fans who were more into the traditional aspects of the BRF gravitated towards Harry and shunned the Cambridges.
But that has all flipped now. Thanks to Meghan, Harry is now the less “royal” brother and the Cambridges, who have barely changed any behaviors, are now super-traditional royals in comparison.
So I kind of understand why the Harry fans flipped. Harry no longer represents their values. I do not, however, understand why the Kate haters are now Meghan sugars. Everything they supposedly hated about Kate–untidyness, love for the press, messy family, flyaway hair, fake hair, materialism, merching, celebrity friends–is even worse with Meghan.
This is what we (I’m using the first person plural because I wasn’t a hard core Harry fan but I was still taken in by his pr) were smoking. I’m going to go in rough chronological order from May 2015 through December 2015
Yes, he left the army in 2015, but first they gave him a massive send-off with a big Australia tour and haka dances and crap.
Yes, this sounds ridiculous now that we know that he was actually romancing Soho House z-listers on these Africa trips, but at the tie this didn’t sound so far-fetched. After all, he had just left the Army supposedly because he loved the front lines but not the desks. It kind of made sense when they framed it that way.
No, I am not kidding when I say over the top. He was supposedly shooting poachers and maybe flying helicopters. They were uncertain about the helicopters part.
Then on his return to England he got the WWII veterans flypast, and that cute pic with the elderly pilot that he “gave up” his plane for. I remember a rumor going around that he had been grounded for goofing around on the planes and that he wasn’t actually able to fly, but the story was so cute, I wanted to believe it. Now I’m thinking he really was grounded, which would explain why they were so unclear about the helicopters in Africa part.
There were cracks in the facade, of course. He was flirting with Jenna Coleman at the Audi polo in June, and he got drunk after England was defeated in the rugby cup (disappointing a whole bunch of Aussies who were convinced after his down under tour that Australia was “the country he never had.”) The reunion with Chelsy never happened and neither did the volunteer work with the Recovery Capability Program (I think maybe he showed up once?). He also missed Charlotte’s birth and christening.
But it was all buried under elephant pics and pilot jumpsuits and kid hugs. he even released “personal photos” on the KP instagram in December to cap off the drive.
It was a looooooooong pr campaign (nine months!) and it was masterfully done. Yeah, now we can look back on it and laugh our heads off because this Hero Harry person is nothing like 2018 Harry. Would this person hang out at Soho House? Would this person fall for Meghan Markle? Would this person now look as if he can’t take a step without a pat and a burp from Mummy 2.0? Aren’t the elephant and crocodile pics suspiciously similar to the James Bond pics after the wedding? Isn’t the whole thing eerily similar to Meghan’s current “savior” press?
I’m not surprised we were all fooled.
BTW, remember this “running into an old teacher” scene in New Zealand? It was redone with Meghan during the carriage drive.
In response to this, and many others like it, trying to create something out of nothing:
“I am stil puzzled by this weird c of a – this is not an individual c of a but joined it is also not a conjugal c of a. Strange. The absence of chains on the supporter is very weird.”
I was too tipsy to make sense over here the first time around. No, it is not weird. It is tack af, very shallow and ego-centred.** But no. It’s not formally weird.
Her father did not get a Markle family CoA, so unlike Kate, she did not have an independent family Arms going into this union beforehand. Therefore no separate display for y’all to see. Though there will formally be a separate Sunshine & Chickenfeathers shield granted as her separate arms, it probably won’t be put out there as it’s simply way beyond its time for use. It has no function as she’s married. The impaled CoA is Meghan’s CoA now. As HRH Duchess of Slutsex. Hope I make sense here.
Further, what the Arms do have by way of formalities, is bog standard positining and referencing. Nothing strange.
Let’s have a comparative look shall we:
Will and Kate (impaled):
Hazza and Meg (impaled):
Like I said: bog standard. Nothing formally untoward.
Now what most people seem to be comparing it with is Will and Kate’s conjugal Arms:
…which was granted later and released two years after their marriage (2013). FYI.
Note that it is not Kate’s hind gorged with Will’s coronet that’s chained, it’s the Scottish unicorn. This is a merger of their separate shields supported and labelled by the Royal CoA. An entirely different matter.
And please refrain from comparing Diana’s separate CoA as she had her suo jure Spencer Arms which features a griffin argent gorged and chained to begin with. This is comparing apples & pears.
Heraldry is a complicated af business even when you do know something of it, so it’s only fair that people generally don’t understand when they really haven’t had to pay attention before. But you can rest assured that aside from the absurd silliness [sic!] of it all, this is “legit”. 🙂
**Note/rant:Though I’m sure she thought it was meant as symbolising using “her voice” for others, we all know M’s motivations by now. The bird in conjunction with the quills are a giveaway.There’s nothing that grounds or roots her with substance. It’s all flighty References to something nobody can really substantiate (part-time below-average calligrapher with only one reference ever of any work?); or banal blog writings much of which were written the guy-intern; or is she referencing the total of 2 ½ “essays” she wrote just around the time of breaking that she’s dating Harry?
Either way – there’s nothing substantial about her symbolics. Just what she’d like to project about herself. It’s a PR-coat. Much like everything else about this woman. And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.
Thank you so much for submitting this! I love it when anons are more articulate than I am. I particularly love this part:
And there you have it. Maybe that’s why people can’t wrap their heads around her shenanigans; you guys are used to a stayed aristo/royal/British way of emphasising tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this. And the immediate reaction is: “oh surely it can’t be right? Is it fake?” Oh the LOLz. It’s real people. Tacky. But real. Where you were used to a Coat of Arms, you got Bathrobe of Arms. We’re breaking tradition baby! Welcome to Meg’s World.
I love the “Bathrobe of Arms,” LOLOLOLOLOL.
But I’m going to focus on this quote: "You guys are used to a staid aristo/royal.British way of emphasizing tradition and stability and something of the true self. Then you get this.” <=== This is why I am revising Hillary Mantel’s “empty chairs” quote.
And Andrew Morton’s chatter about how the monarchy is all just costumes and crap anyway, so Meghan’s perfect for it.
She really is making it all look like a Hollywood production (the theatrical wedding, the sashay at the garden party). and, yes, there is an element of theatricality to the BRF, but, as you say, there is supposed to be a core of tradition and truth to it. What will be the effect of all of this Hollywood crapola being injected into the institution.
Right now, the conventional wisdom among the royal reporters, etc… is that this is fantastic because it “modernizes” the monarchy and expands its reach, but I don’t think that will be the case.
I think what will happen is that, as Meghan moves through the royal sphere, everything will start to look faker and faker and Hollywood-y, and it’s going to be interesting to see what effect this has. They are already dealing with a decrease in UK viewers. What’s next?
I think it’s interesting that the Cambridge response is to up the real-ness of their own family. Will is doing more “normal” stuff with friends and family, and becoming more of a diplomat. Kate is recycling like crazy and writing letters about her family life.
Thanks for sending this in, You’re right, the CoA perfectly illustrates what we are seeing, particularly in the “impaled” format, where it is contrasted with Harry’s own über-traditional set of arms.
this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife. This is how wiki describes it:
When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.
IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above. But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too. Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.
So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.
It’s been a while since my opinionated self was last teed off, but there was something in the press releases regarding the new Duchess of Sussex’s coat of arms that really annoyed me. I haven’t posted anything on the coat of arms as there is so much about it that I don’t understand or just find ridiculous. There are numerous blogs that have been posting a ton of good stuff on the topic though.
But the coat of arms in and of itself is not really what bothers me. What it does is highlight a trend that I, and I’m sure many others would have noticed over the past few months. Just look at this headline:
“Her biggest break in royal tradition yet…” What is this, a world record attempt to see how many rules or how big a rule current royals can break? I was pretty sure that I’d seen similar phrasing before, so I had a brief look to see how often this theme comes up with regards to the newly minted Sussexes.
There are literally, pages upon pages of articles listed on google about Harry and/or Meghan “Breaking Royal Tradition/Breaking Protocol”. The shot above does not even begin to illustrate how many articles there are out there with the headline being some form of “breaking tradition/protocol/rules.” And before anyone goes “it’s the media’s fault”, the BRF does have some leverage over what the media reports, especially in the UK, so I doubt that we would be inundated with so many similar articles if this wasn’t somehow linked to a PR push of sorts. (Why they push in this particular direction is beyond me.)
Rule breaking has been a recurring theme in the media for the entirety of the Sussex’s relationship. It’s almost as if they’re both stuck in a perpetual teenage phase where rule breaking is cool just because it’s rule breaking. Where is the logic in that, I do not know. But it really does seem to be just petty rule breaking for the sake of rule breaking. Because what kinds of “rules” are they breaking anyway? Here’s one right under the headline:
To name just a few of the things that the media has so nicely pointed out for us over the past few months (this last month especially), the Sussex’s “rule/tradition breaking” consists of being total rebels over things like a cake flavor, kissing for photographers on the steps of St George’s Chapel when none has ever kissed there for photographers before, having a foreigner speak at their wedding, having only very young wedding attendants, choosing their own ‘style’ of wedding music (these ones are from legit articles btw, I’m not making them up). Also, leaking on social media, not waiting until marriage to undertake tours together/issue statements on official letterheads (by the non-royal fiancee), no walking down the aisle with the bride’s father (many women do this for various reasons, but Meghan’s the progressive trendsetter y’all), not inviting family to their
wedding while inviting a ton of people they may not know very well, possibly spending taxpayer money on leisure trips together while dating, announcing that one or both are feminists on multiple occasions, etc. Real ground breaking stuff that gets touted as “modern” and “progressive”.
Now what kinds of rules did they NOT break? Here’s one example that I’ve posted about before:
The Sussexes did not see it as modern/necessary to go against rules/traditions (whether formal or just within the family) that involve bridal jewellery (the type of wedding ring for the bride and the source of materials used – the Queens vault; the bridal tiara tradition and the tiara source – again, the Queen’s vault; the Cartier wedding gifts; the Diana ring), the carriage ride (even though this is one tradition that ~30K UK citizens WANTED them to break), the multiple receptions with their dress (and suit?) changes, the acceptance of titles by the newly married couple, the receipt of a home appointed by the Crown with an upkeep that is potentially financed by the taxpayer, etc, etc. I mean, who would dare break such rules/traditions? Not the feminist, progressive modernizing-the-monarchy Sussexes of all people. SMH.
For all the rule breaking the Sussexes have done, I cannot recall them having ever broken one that “matters” in terms of making a social statement. They could’ve made really strong, positive ones about family and race issues at the wedding for example, but they fell short on that one too. They’re just happy to “break tradition” willy-nilly and be touted as “modernizing” and “progressive” as long as it doesn’t have anything (negative) to do with their bottom line or stop them from parading in front of an audience. If it costs them and not someone else, then by no means do they want to break tradition. Honestly, every time I see a title like this:
…I wonder what the hell these people are smoking. The BRF may be an ancient institution and uphold many traditions, but they are fairly modern by world standards in the way they operate. As stuffy as being a royal wife may be, these BRF women have more rights and are more involved/included/acknowledged than women in some other royal families/other parts of the world have been IMO. In all honesty, if ever there was a royal bride whose name I would consider in the same sentence as the phrase “modernizing the royal family” it would be Lalla Salma of Morocco (who sadly, the media reports as being recently divorced).
As a bit of background, prior to Lalla Salma’s wedding to the King of Morocco, Moroccan women lacked a lot of the rights that western women enjoy and were subject to the decision making of their male counterparts. The monarch had multiple wives whom he never publicly acknowledged and swapped out as he pleased. Lalla Salma, a computer science graduate, was the woman whose marriage changed the status quo. She was the first Moroccan monarch’s wife to be publicly acknowledged, champion charitable causes, accompany her husband at public events and represent him in an official capacity. She was the first woman to get a Moroccan King to promise her that she would be the only wife, and that he would not hide her away. During her tenure as consort, women within Moroccan society gained rights and privileges that were formerly restricted to men. Now that is what I call modernizing the monarchy. Modernizing a society even. That is royal leverage used well, and I say this of both Lalla Salma and her (ex?) husband. This is an example of the kind of effort a royal couple would have to put in to get the kind of acclaim the Sussexes are trying to court. But it doesn’t happen over night. It took the Moroccans years, and they’re still in the process of change.
I would also add that not all monarchies currently need modernizing IMHO. The need for modernizing stems from a cultural climate that is stuck in a system of beliefs/values/traditions that a lot of the “modern world” had already left behind. This need for “modernizing” is less pressing in the BRF where women and men are equally acknowledged and able to succeed the reigning monarch. I know it’s not as simple as that, but I honestly don’t think the British royals have it that bad. If they’re not careful, I feel they’ll modernize the UK out of a royal family altogether. There are certainly things that I would like to see the BRF change, but none of it has anything to do with cake flavors, guest-lists or proclamations of grandeur. Why “break traditions” in an attempt to modernize a monarchy in ways that really aren’t needed? (Why does it matter to the world if royals eat fruit cake or some other cake at weddings? How does the music they play/listen to better the world?…You get the picture). If they really want to “modernize the monarchy” the Sussexes had better start doing it in ways that count – and by that I mean in ways that will also benefit others and not just themselves.
My apologies for the uncomfortable length of this rant-y post. Takeaway points: I’m sick of the endless “breaking tradition/protocol/rules” and “modernizing” articles regarding the Sussexes and the BRF in general. The BRF doesn’t need modernizing and this PR push counts for squat until one of them actually does something that brings about positive change, both for the BRF and their subjects. Until then, they can lay off the PR. It’s just window dressing – horrible, tacky window dressing that does the opposite of “selling” the BRF.
Excellent post. They really aren’t breaking anything they just want everyone to believe they are trailblazers.
“[A]nything from infertility to hair loss and relationship problems…” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
So, do they not have any kind of HIPPA laws in the UK regarding acupuncture? I’m wondering how he gets around that kind of thing with an article like this…
Also, for Harry’s hair loss, he’d probably have to see an acupuncturist that either specializes in fine grain moxa treatments or microneedling. Doesn’t look like this guy does either of those two things.
Most likely yes. He needs to follow his divine inspiration about where to go or what to do. God is their matchmaker or in other words – the Universe is at play here. That’s the ace of swords. Will Meghan be able to stop the meeting – the hierophant – it is a maybe, but as I got it reversed it’s a probably not. Also, the hidden card that came here is another of the 3 karma cards – the wheel of fortune. In combination – it’s a no. Things are set in stone for PH and FD to meet, we have a divine matchmaker and no one can mess with that and succeed.
‘It was an act calculated to create embarrassment. She needed money.’
‘By this time, she and Augustus had been married for seven years, even though the royal couple had spent less than a year together as man and wife, and both had been serially unfaithful.
According to documents lodged in the Royal Archives at Windsor, the Duchess chased her husband to Lisbon trying to get money out of him and managed to secure a £4,000-a-year maintenance deal.’
‘For the first Duke and Duchess of Sussex, it was a case of marry in haste and repent at leisure. For people like them there was no such thing as divorce, and they were shackled to each other for life. Money, ambition and betrayal tarnished their marriage, and it’s reassuring to think that nothing of such magnitude could ever occur to the lives of Harry and Meghan today.’
‘Her husband had to bring a legal action to stop her using the royal coat of arms, and another to stop her children, encouraged by their mother, from calling themselves ‘Prince’ and ‘Princess’.’
this is complex so I hope I can explain it – with impaled arms if the husband marries twice the femme side of the arms is divided again to show the PATERNAL arms of the first wife and then the arms of the second wife. This is how wiki describes it:
When a husband has been married more than once, the sinister half of femme is split per fess, that is to say horizontally in half, with the paternal arms of the first wife shown in chief and those of the second wife in base. The sinister side may thus be divided more than twice in similar fashion where required.
IF Megsy had arms which were “Markle” arms then Harry upon divorce would in his joint arms have to display her arms too as per above. But because she has no “Markle” arms or paternal arms Harry won’t in his impaled arms upon a second marriage have to display the Markle arms too. Or so it appears to me since she does not have paternal arms.
So the current situation appears to prevent Harry from having Markle in his impaled arms forever and his second wife from having to share her impaled arms with Markle.
Yeah I watched her videos on them. All of the tarot card readings have been highly interesting. The secrets and betrayal have been a common theme in the reading.
Lmao a NYT reporter was in the crowds at the wedding and her incredulity and snark are amazing. Few tidbits: half the crowd booed Harry the night before the wedding, cheered and *loved* seeing Fergie
Well, I think Harry has a better chart for children than she does. I don’t have time to do an in-depth answer right now though. I don’t think she can get pregnant easily anyway given her age and general look of malnourishment going on in her body. She is so skinny that I have to wonder if she has amenorrhea.
At this point, I think it’s really more important to see how this summer unfolds for them. I think from now until Ascot will be a good time for these two, but after that…I suspect things are going to change. So they get six weeks of wedded “bliss” if you want to call it that. After that, I think it’ll be game on for fleet street.
But I agree with you that Harry has some serious growing up to do.
When you compare Meghan and Fergie, and how their timelines will play out, I think that may be a mistake.
Meghan has been on a timeline all her own for a while now, although the Duchess of Windsor would probably be a closer comparison.
Even then, tho…..
Meghan was so tacky at the beginning with the pics of bananas and British tea, people were convinced for a solid week after they dropped they were dating that couldn’t possibly happen in any reality involving actual royal people.
And then, only a week into the relationship, all her skeletons started to fall out, and Harry did that statement. Well, people accepted they were together, and that Harry was obviously serious. But I think the statement mostly made people uncomfortable. It had never happened before, called a whole slew of people racist. It was uncomfortable.
And then she pap walked in all British brands DAYS later. And then pap walked in an H and M necklace a month later.
Harry’s mistake of flying out to see her at the end of a tour, when he should have gone home. People are going to think, why not he wanted to see his girlfriend. When someone is walking around downtown London, on a sunny day, in wellies, and Barbour, you look tacky. She would have looked less tacky and touristy in socks and sandals and an usa t-shirt.
The months following are the same pattern. Most of Harry’s public mistakes, while they shouldn’t have happened, were him flying to see her when he shouldn’t have. Or inviting her on that African “working holliday” when he shouldn’t have. That just translates to a majority of the public like he really wanted to see her. I’d be mad if that was my tax money, but he just looks like a guy trying to see his then girlfriend as often as possible.
Meghan, on the other hand, kept posting “clues” on her IG, keeps pap walking, keeps forcing herself into situations where she clearly isn’t trying to fit in. Skippy’s wedding, Pippa’s wedding, and polo were all awkward as hell. And a nation that grew up with the boys, and is used to what the boys normally look like with their girlfriends, can see with their own eyes that something is off.
Couple that with her father’s family don’t have much nice to say, her mother’s family don’t have much nice to say, colleagues don’t have much nice to say, ex boyfriends and husband’ don’t have much nice to say, agents don’t have much nice to say, NO ONE has much nice to say, and all revealed at a steady stream over a year, and you have a problem.
This engagement and wedding should have been the turn around.
But she talked to Vanity Fair, and publicly did that walkabout during Invictus. I think they could have pulled off Invictus, IF Meghan hadnt done Vanity fair, revealed she’d been talking to the media for months, before obviously courting them at Invictus, and then standing around looking like a hooker in raccoon eyes with two of the cheapest people I have ever seen in Royal presence. Anderson and Mulroney. Meghan is incapable of class, or decorum, or anything resembling admiration. How do you admire raccoon eyes? And messy hair? Both Chelsy and Cressida managed to go to public outtings with Harry while looking like they hadn’t called the media first.
And then papped before that sorry excuse for an engagement announcement. A nation that sees royal engagement announcements on a regular basis knew that wasn’t how they happen. Eugenie getting it so right only a few months later highlight that. Not that I think Eugenie knows how to deal with he media, but she clearly asked for palace help with that.
And then ALL THE LEAKING. Meghan can put out as many surgery articles as she wants. The constant attention isn’t only unsustainable, it’s crazy. Brangelina didn’t survive the constant media attention, Twilight didn’t survive the constant media attention. If you oversaturate the market , the public turns you into a meme.
And Meghan’s meme is already set. Her father’s family weren’t at the wedding, her mother’s family weren’t at the wedding. The wedding was tacky, and the opposite of royal. And her father, at least according to press, was in a charity hospital in Mexico while Meghan was off playing pretty pretty princess.
That tacky fest is going to bite her in the booty later, because everyone wound up looking good except her. Her mother had to show up by herself, because Meghan didn’t even give her a plus one, and Prince Charles stepped up, and took care of the mother, and walked Meghan down the aisle. There were tons of articles praising Charles for being a gentleman everywhere.
The royal family were very welcoming, their children were part of the wedding. The showed up, and showed support.
And Harry. Dear God. The engagement interview looked like he was besotted, and all the coverage that involved her was calling out lies. Everyone remembers he said he loved her, and was looking forward to being a team. Everyone remembers she said she had no idea who he was, and hoped he was nice, with accompanying pics of her sitting outside Buckingham Palace. And several people that knew her stepping up to call her out on that.
And during the wedding, Harry cried. Apparently twice. He has become an internet meme for how a groom is supposed to look at his bride. And sat there, turned sideways in his chair, legs as close to her as possible, and clutched her hand for a solid hour. Apparently while crying. Twice.
She just held out her hand, and kept attention toward the cameras. Not showing affection back, while her father was, at least according to the mirror, in a charity hospital, and her poor all alone mother was being taken care of by the royal family.
Harry talks about how amazing she is, and how much he loves her. She talks about how she is a proud feminist, and is a social justice warrior. I don’t think she’ ever said publicly she loves him. Something the press haven’ forgotten with Charles.
Wallis Simpson was just divorced. She didn’t have social media to embaress herself in such a fashion. And she had the good sense not to call the media.
ALL of this is going to come into play later. When people admit, during the divorce, that they always knew this wasn’t going to work out, they are going to replay all this stuff from the beginning. And Meghan has done all this publicly. Pics of Harry clutching her, crying, are going to be the meme when they announce the divorce. How is she supposed to counter that? Say that sometimes, privately, he could be mean?
This is all the stuff that is gonna make her look bad. Not even including the possible first marriage, the sex tape, the naked pics, one of which happened after she met Harry, and the possible yachting, if true. Heather Mills didn’t have this wrong with her. Until the prostitution crap came out, people geniuely believed in the beginning she loved Paul.
And we haven’t gotten into when they call her in the papping and merching. Harry hasn’t been as obvious as her. And hasn’t had Jessica piblicly commenting on it. The public was furious when they thought her father did it to her, and what are they supposed to think when they find out she did it to the royal family?
She is going to be Wallis Simpson, Heather Mills, and Urdangarin all rolled into one. She has, rather impressively, done every royal scandal ever all in the span if two years.
And she is already unpopular from the beginning. No royal bride has had this many problems, not even Wallis Simpson. Whatever happened to Wallis during her wedding to Edward, no one knows. She didn’t call the media.
I highly doubt ALL of this comes out. But I bet a good bit of it does.
Harry has made plenty of mistakes during this relationship, but at the end, I think the public will consider his biggest mistake was falling for her in the first place.
These are all very good points. There’s also the fact hat the media moves A LOT faster now than it did in the eighties.
I hold on to the Fergie timeline because I like having a basis for my opinions, but you’re right, it may not take that long.
This why rolled my eyes so hard during Will & Kate’s US tour, but at least that one was official receptions and it felt like it was the celebs wanting to meet Will & Kate and not the other way around.
This is obviously the Slutsexes kowtowing to a bunch of celebs they barely know and letting them use the wedding for self-promotion and merching.
If Harry wants to remarry in a few years time, then people are going to be annoyed because he’ll look like a serial marriage person. It’s just not a good look all around.
Well, I remember people complaining that Harry & Megs shouldn’t have really gotten a wedding in the Church of England this time because Megs is divorced, but they gave them a pass on it.
So, I’m sure it’ll be up to the CoE again to decide if they’re going to give them a pass on it or not.
Tina Brown says that the gospel choir was Prince Charles’ idea. Makes sense that he’d hav to encourage them to get their act together and suggest musicians & singers for them to include. Remember that the choir and ‘cellist were announced rather late. Note also that the harpist at the wedding was the official harpist to the Prince of Wales.
Well, the people you’re talking about have just straight up lied to people about an agreement, fake engagement, blackmail, etc.
I think the possibility of an annulment exists if this marriage implodes over the summer. We’ll just have to wait and see what kind of fireworks go off after the 4th of July.
Maybe. It might just depend how quickly this thing unravels. We’ll know for sure by the beginning of September I think. If Harry ever wanted to have a wedding in a church to someone else, then he would have to get an annulment or else he’d probably have to settle for a civil ceremony with a blessing afterwards like his dad.
The problem I have with that is that Megs stopped being with Cory in 2016. Wedding happened in 2018. That’s a year and a half separation at a minimum. It seems really hard to justify that there’s an overlap causing a conflict with this marriage.
Does it mean that Harry was fucking Megs while she was still with Cory? I have no doubt that is the case. But Cory and Megs went their separate ways before an engagement happened.
“Hiding information about a previous marriage” isn’t on the annulment petition. I’ve looked at it. Hiding a marriage would only be relevant if someone was still married to that person while getting married to someone else, aka polygamous marriage. The voidable options are directly posted above.
I can’t even find that on the supporting notes for the petition paperwork, and you can take a look at them here:
Let’s establish a few things about annulment first.
One, some people have said that Meghan was in a civil union/common-law marriage with Cory when she started up with Harry. I think the basis for this is that a lot of articles state that if you live together for a year in Canada while in a relationship that means you’re considered a common-law marriage/civil union. However, when I did some internet research, I found that provinces can regulate it. Toronto is in Ontario, and Ontario states that it must be a continuous relationship while living together for three years. Cory and Megs were only together for two years, so obviously that doesn’t qualify.
Two, what I found when researching annulments in the UK, is that there are 1) not legally valid marriages (”void”), and 2) defective (”voidable”) marriages.
So, since there is no reason the marriage between Harry and Megs is not legally valid, if Harry wants to annul this marriage, then he would have to go for a reason that the marriage is defective.
No one is going to believe that this marriage wasn’t consummated when they couldn’t keep their hands off each other during the wedding.
Megs definitely wasn’t pregnant by another man.
It’s going to be damn hard to prove that Harry didn’t properly consent to the marriage when they gave Megs a tour of the UK with all those engagements.
But “the other person had a sexually transmitted disease when you got married” option I think could be a winner! All they would need to do is have Meg’s sex tape released with lots references to her yachting past (”for a good time call X”) and there are LOTS of people who would be a) shocked and b) might even feel slightly sorry for Harry. (Although I think listing a STD as a reason for an annulment is kind of dumb personally.)
Three, looking for basis of annulments in the Church of England I didn’t come up with as much as I thought I could. I was basically able to find this:
So basically it sounds to me that if Harry can get this marriage legally annulled, then the Church of England will be able to annul it on religious grounds.
I don’t have as much time today to go into things as well as I’d like, but I do think the possibility of annulment exists here. I agree with AHPF’s mom that this relationship will be over after the honeymoon. As other people have noted, Harry wants a wife and kids and actually seems to have some love for Megs. Megs seems to love her new status and all the moolah and jewels coming her way. I do think the fact that Megs didn’t say “I love you” in the engagement interview is going to come back and bite her in the ass this summer.
I don’t expect the UK press to start taking serious potshots at these two until after Ascot. It could totally happen before that, but I think that most of the press will let them have a honeymoon period first. Also, the Trooping of the Colour is not too far away. Prince Louis will have his christening soon. Zara will probably have her baby (babies?) soon. There are several positive, happy events happening within the next 5-6 weeks, so no need to publish Meg’s past when you have readers willingly clicking on positive articles on the royal family.
But here are some dates of interest that we can take a look and start to gauge things this year:
The last full week of June (24-30): Look to see if Harry is treating Megs differently, and if Harry is dishing out cutting remarks about his wife. Maybe he’ll just be mad at Megs draining out his bank accounts by buying shit all the time.
22 July to 04 August: IF there is going to be an annulment, then we will have to see signs of it here I think.
10 to 23 October: IF it is going to be an annulment, then I would expect it to be completed maybe around this time frame. (No one is going to go for an annulment years down the road.) If it’s going to be a divorce, then perhaps papers will be filed around this time frame.
Charles is going to distance himself from that dumb-fuck of a younger son he has for the time being. He may get public pr points from walking Megs down a quarter aisle, but he knows Megs is a pr disaster waiting to happen.
One, I think they are afraid that he will turn full Diana and start doing interview trashing the BRF. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he was doing interviews talking about how they made him walk behind the coffin, Will didn’t take care of him at Eton, and no one wants to be a royal in February/March when he was trying to sell Meghan to the BRF.
I get a lot of anons talking about how Meghan has dirt on the BRF, but I think the one with the real dirt on the BRF, and an amazing platform to spread it, is Harry.
Second, I think Harry has serious issues that make him borderline unmarriageable. Yes, the press attention and mind-numbingly boring royal workload are part of it, but there are likely other personal issues. A lot of people talked about how William had to settle for Kate because “there was no one else.” I think that is actually true about Harry. They’ve been trying for years to get someone decent to step up with no luck. I think Harry told them that this was his only chance and they couldn’t take it away from him.
“The wedding was very well done and beautiful but I am really confused by some of the celeb attendees there. “Suits” cast, Beckhams, those I get, but Serena Williams, Oprah & the Clooneys too? I very much doubt they are close friends or good friends at all with those. “Invite close friends only” my ass. Their weding, their guest list – but I wish the KP didn’t release such contradictory statement.“ – Submitted by Anonymous
The Clooneys weren’t invited for the second reception at Frogmore, their name wasn’t on the list. And they had to wait outside Frogmore for almost 15 minutes…the problem were the pics that were published….Since it happened…Bubly, Poply, Poople thought about a way to fix, because someone read the website and saw the pics. So Meghan decided to dance with him and Harry thought it would be a great idea to ask Kate to also do it. #ThanksAL
Thanks for answering my ask! You said “he’ll hopefully see her for who she is” but how couldn’t he already?! –> Only God and his stupid father knows. She took pics from a secured area at KP and was about to publish online (the one thatvrelease this information was me), he saw and they broke up. Oh, darling…She called him excessively to apologize, he accepted/stalked. Can be loneliness and also lack of focus, work and so on. 😘
I hope you can answer these questions. How can PH/MM go through fertility treatments/IVF if they are (allegedly) using drugs? –> They aren’t frequent users. I don’t have a specific knowledge about, but I presume it does, since a drug acts on your central nervous system, and this net (CND) regulates your entire body. She was yripping with and that dress last night. Because she was drunk as a cow 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Also, why do you think MM will bolt? Imo, she will never have a better life that what she has now. As the wife of the 6th (5th) in line to the throne she wouldn’t get a huge divorce settlement (would she?). –> She is a fame whore, but I doubt she will please (did you realize that her career are only tips in tiny movies and/or movies that you never heard about? And deal with the bad press and scrutiny. She fucked io twice with HM (‘something borrowed’ gate and ‘curtsey’ gate) and that is something that the journos will make sure that she learns. 😘😘😘😘
You are the absolute tits 😘💋😍 –> Tits??? 😱😱😱 I love that you give us the scoop on what’s happening behind the scenes. Why do you suppose this wedding and engagement was so rushed? –> Harry and his desperation. Now, he will be desperate for it to work, then for babies, then for this and that. Agreed. Although, Harry is in love. Yeah! 🤣🤣🤣 What’s he like in real life? –> If you thought only positively about him, you might start to rethink. 🤣🤣🤣 He is an asshole! He was looking for one, he found it. Yes. 😘
Thanks for sending this in! I can just imagine the Royal staff scrambling to find stands and vessels that would make this crap cake look like something decent.
I’m still having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that this is supposed to be a royal wedding cake. Oh, well, I guess it fits them to a “t.”
Obviously there will be no traditional wedding cake at any of their christenings.
What this wedding shows is that the royal family is open for business, but not in a great way. It’s widely known that it’s difficult to get access to the BRF, whether you’re a British designer or a celeb hoping to mix with them at an event. I use to work in the celeb branding/events industry in London and there’s no way any kind of money would’ve got you into W & K’s wedding.
Large charity donations by a mega celeb + repositioning M & H’s brand as international, well connected humanitarians = win win for both parties. I love a good wedding, but this wedding reeks of tack and vulgarity. I thought that the fake floral arch was actually quite beautiful but couldn’t help thinking that it was there as a ‘step and repeat’ backdrop for celeb arrivals!
This is not modernising the monarchy. Mark my words, there’ll be plenty of pay-to-play scandals to come.
THIS.
A lot of people suspected that money could buy you access, but it had to be A LOT OF MONEY and it provided very little access and you had to be super discreet about it.
Now they are merching cupcakes and private clubs and cars and middle-market Canadian jewelry and it’s A LOT more obvious. They did a freaking Jaguar ad!!!! Plus the guest list and seating placement, of course.
And, yes, it was deliciously vulgar. The whole point of the BRF is that they are supposed to be above tacky product placements and celebrity back-scratching. Harry and Meghan, however, are definitely not above any of that crap.
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