At the moment the Duke of Edinburgh title is what’s called a Royal Dukedom which is because the owner isn’t called His Grace, he’s called HRH. However when the title reaches someone who doesn’t have an HRH it becomes like every other title. James will be His Grace and they’ll start to use numbering so he’ll often be referred to as James Windsor, 2nd Duke of Edinburgh (not third, the title will be recreated for Edward and he’ll be the 1st Duke but won’t be known as the 1st Duke because he’s an HRH).
Meh. Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, used it quite a bit in the US when she was doing ads for Weight Watchers years ago. Back then people remembered she was part of royalty, and that was how she got endorsement deals to shill stuff.
Your last line there is key: “the US would ignore all that.”
Exactly.
Asking Americans to care about the difference between Meghan, TheDuchess of Sussex, and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, is pointless. They’re not going to care because the important word of distinction to Americans is “duchess.” Americans are not going to care whether or not a definite article is placed before the word “duchess.” The fact that someone is using the word “duchess” in relation to someone is what is worthy of note.
No one in the US is going to stop Megsy going around calling herself Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. That girl will use it until she dies.
I think she will. She needs the US tour, a documentary, and some more magazine covers. I also think she’s still trying for a baby.
Megs can’t leave on her own after Christmas. That would make it an automatic annulment. She wouldn’t get to keep her title like she would in a divorce. She would have nothing to negotiate with against the royal family.
She doesn’t keep the tittle even after divorce. She’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose it fully cos the title is Harry’s NOT HERS. You cannot have 2 Duchess of Sussex. Also bear in mind the only reason why Fergie still has it is cos Andrew has not remarried, if he had Fergie would loose it too. And no they won’t be Ms MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR neither. That does not work that way with the BRF !!!!
Let’s remember that Megsy will live in the US after the marriage is over. The US press isn’t as likely to adhere to UK protocol. She will use that title as long as she can. The only way to ensure that she doesn’t use it is to make it crystal clear from the get-go that she does not have a right to use the title after the marriage is over. If it’s not crystal clear, then she’s going to use all the wiggle room she possibly can.
Harry remarrying wouldn’t stop her is my point.
I hear you and understand exactly what you mean. But once the divorce is set and finalised she’ll have a clause where that will be explained that she’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose the Duchess part too. If she goes on to be stubborn and a narc and uses it she can be prosecuted no matter where she is. It’s illegal and that’ll carry all over. And in the US she won’t be able to use it as a US citizen as it won’t be recognised. She’ll just go back to being Ms markle and I bet you the UK press will piss her off using the “former” word every time they mention her and hazza new wife…
I don’t really want to go back and forth on this, but in the US as it stands right now, her title has no meaning in the USA even as she’s an HRH as of this very moment. Meghan is still a US citizen right now. She hasn’t renounced her US citizenship. She’s not a British citizen yet, and she very likely won’t ever be.
There is nothing in US law that would prohibit her using it because titles are not part of US law and custom. No one is going to arrest her in the US if she had “Duchess of Sussex” on her stationary and insisted on it being used in press appearances. She is not going to be prosecuted in the US for it.
The US press doesn’t care about UK protocol. The US entertainment & celebrity press, which publishes all of Meg’s pr missives, cares even less. As they’ve proven time and again, they take the pr email and publish it as is.
Megsy is way more interested in US press coverage in the long term anyway. You’re insisting that Megsy care more about the press in a country of 66 million versus the press in a country of 326 million. It’s been pretty obvious up to now that she plays to the US press & audience because that’s the one she truly cares about. And those people are NOT going to care about UK law and stipulations.
I think she will. She needs the US tour, a documentary, and some more magazine covers. I also think she’s still trying for a baby.
Megs can’t leave on her own after Christmas. That would make it an automatic annulment. She wouldn’t get to keep her title like she would in a divorce. She would have nothing to negotiate with against the royal family.
She doesn’t keep the tittle even after divorce. She’ll loose the HRH and when Harry remarries she’ll loose it fully cos the title is Harry’s NOT HERS. You cannot have 2 Duchess of Sussex. Also bear in mind the only reason why Fergie still has it is cos Andrew has not remarried, if he had Fergie would loose it too. And no they won’t be Ms MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR neither. That does not work that way with the BRF !!!!
Let’s remember that Megsy will live in the US after the marriage is over. The US press isn’t as likely to adhere to UK protocol. She will use that title as long as she can. The only way to ensure that she doesn’t use it is to make it crystal clear from the get-go that she does not have a right to use the title after the marriage is over. If it’s not crystal clear, then she’s going to use all the wiggle room she possibly can.
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